A message to all protesters... STFU!!! :madfawk:

 

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It boggles my mind how uneducated some people are (or ignorant, or both). The anti-war crowd makes us supporters of our country and what is worth fighting for sound like war mongers. It's like they think all we want to do is kill, kill, kill. I quickly point out that what we do kill are animals, not human beings. The republican guard, using human sheilds and threatening innocent civillians to fight or die are not human. A dictator who threatens the use of WMD on innocent civillians is not human. They are ravenous animals. It was ravenous animals who flew those planes into the Trade Center and the Pentagon. Ravenous animals are like out of control pit bull dogs. They must be put down. There is not an ounce of humanity in their bones, so for that I do not have remorse. The anti-war idiots need to learn exactly what is going on. What the facts are. And I'm tired of explaining it to them.

 

i dont really speak much on this subject, but i have strong feelings about it. i am 100% behind our soldiers.

but my feelings have also almost gotten me in trouble. someone told me that our soldiers over there were blood thirsty lunatics. i ended up breaking his nose and jaw.

 

That's when you know that person is poorly informed when they can make you that mad. I'd say I don't blame you, but then I'd sound hypocritical. He probably isn't a ravenous animal. Seriously, don't worry about hiding your feelings if you feel that strongly (you obviously didn't with that guy). My cubicle at work is decorated with flags, I have pictures of our troops in action cut out from the newspapers, and I have a picture of two French fags in berrets crying "no war" with another picture of Uncle Sam in an F-14 droping bombs on Saddam while droping snails and wine on the fags. Quite humorous. Needless to say, the three anti-war people we have at work don't even come near me.

 

And now for the obligatory counter-argument from the resident liberal.
I don't really see how protesting endangers the life of other Americans. Typical conservative tactic to demonize anyone with a conflicting point of view.
Voicing a dissenting opinion is still divisive. Not everyone can run for public office. If protesting in the "legal" way was productive, then people would do it.
Personally I didn't protest certain prior conflicts because I had no objection to the policies of the government initiating those conflicts. The Bush administration has continually strategically manipulated its focus and reasoning as to why we have gone to Iraq, from weapons of mass distruction, to removing an evil regime, to freeing the Iraqi people. A warm fuzzy name like "Operation Iraqi Freedom" doesn't change the fact that the administration has been acting like it's the CIA or something while all of its actions are fully publicised.
Protesters disrupt the normal goings-on of the day so that other people will pay attention to them. Sure it sucks that for one day out of the year certain people have a 3-hour commute to work, but really does a protest screw up stuff that much? And when has a terrorist attack been launched during a protest staged by U.S. citizens?
That's not what a lot of people are protesting. There are plenty of people such as myself who are not fundamentally against war like your typical protester; but are distressed by the actions of the administration in pursuing this conflict. That's MY objection, not to the troops carrying out their orders. Any comparison to any prior conflict is completely invalid, because it assumes that the same people are protesting as before. Protesting is usually never against the troops themselves, but against the people ordering those troops around. All of this "support the troops" stuff is moot, because virtually no one is against the troops. They just want the troops to get sent home and out of harm's way.
Saddam has been "an evil, murdering tyrant" for over 20 years. He hasn't gotten any worse in that time. He had and used chemical weapons back in the 80's, that were supplied to him by the U.S. Lest we forget, that is the precedent upon which this war was waged, not that the Iraqi people were suddenly in need of international assistance. They've been in just as much need since Saddam gained power.
The fact that people are complaining is evidence that these tactics are working. The point is to get people's attention. If nobody knows that a protest is going on, then how is the issue going to be made public?
Writing a letter to an elected official is not a public display of an issue. Elections aren't happening for a while ago, and it's not a reasonably expectation that any regular person who happens to have a dissenting opinion has even some of the resources necessary for mounting a successful political campaign. Divisive behavior is what happens when people have the right to divide themselves based on their opinions. It's non-constructive in that it is counter to the point of view of the person who wrote this letter, but it's very constructive for people who are trying to draw attention to their issue of choice.

 

The fact is that despite any sort of behavioral tendencies, they are still indeed people. Is it possible for any conservative to not speak rhetorically and call it fact?

 

Ask a family member of one of the 3,000 we lost that day if such rhetoric is false.

Only animals can murder unprovoked. Whether it's a gun, a knife, or an airplane. But decent human beings don't murder.

 

and that is where these protests move from behind the cover of constitutional protection. as soon as a protest and those involved starts disrupting the liberties of others, it is no longer "freedom of speech" because it is no longer a "peaceful protest".

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Saddam has been "an evil, murdering tyrant" for over 20 years. He hasn't gotten any worse in that time. He had and used chemical weapons back in the 80's, that were supplied to him by the U.S. Lest we forget, that is the precedent upon which this war was waged, not that the Iraqi people were suddenly in need of international assistance. They've been in just as much need since Saddam gained power.

where is the proof that the US supplied chemical weapons to Hussein? unless you can back that argument up, you fall in line with all of the others that have jumped on the unfounded conclusions bandwagon on this or any other issue.

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The fact that people are complaining is evidence that these tactics are working. The point is to get people's attention. If nobody knows that a protest is going on, then how is the issue going to be made public?

there is a very big difference between a peaceful protest and disrupting the day to day routine of american citizens. usually you have to get a permit to protest in a public place and the local police departments issue statements to the public saying where and when the protest will be held. those statements are made as a warning because the protest may get out of hand. if the protest is overly disruptive, then it no longer constitutionally sound and needs to be broken up by the proper authorities.

 

Back in the 80's we sold different samples of chemical and biological agents to Iraq for research purposes only. At the time this was lawfull for the US to do and the samples sent were small and not weaponized. Saddam then had them reproduced into large quantities and weaponized using equipment and processes showed to Iraq by the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union also supplied many weaponized versions of chemical and biological agents they had produced. The Soviet Union was the largest producer of chemical and biological weapons in the world and to this day still maintains the largest known stockpile of such weapons.