The words Christian and Conservative should not be used in the same sentence. One can not possibly be a good Christian and a conservative at the same time. It is hypocrisy.

Jesus was not a conservative, he was a liberal! He did not act to advance the agenda of the establishment. He acted to change the establishment.

Conservatives typically support war, and capital punishment. What part of Thou shall not kill don't you understand?

Jesus acted to allow admission for the weak, poor, sick, diseased... into the temples. (the story of the money changers) These were the people who at the time were seen as deserving of their position because they brought on the wrath of god. Yet these are the people that Jesus advocated for. He did not tell them to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps" "No free handouts here buddy, get a job"

In violation of social norms, Jesus went around forgiving sins. Only the rabbis were allowed to do that.

Jesus did not advocate for the use of force to free the jewish people from the oppression of the roman empire. Like Bush in his war with Iraq.

I can go on and on.

Before you respond to this, you better go to your dictionary and look up the words conservative and liberal. Most people are ingnorant of the meanings and prefer to focus upon specific issues that conservatives and liberals have supported in the past. This is particularly for you conservatives who prefer to distort information to fit your ridged belief systems, rather than for you liberals, who typically adjust your belief systems to accomodate new information.

 

your argument is full of holes. i would point them out, but i doubt it'd make any difference.

 

You confirmed what I learned back in college. My Psych instructors were the goofiest Profs that I had. You carry on that tradition greatly.

David Liske

 

I think you need to take some Theology classes. :rollseyes:

 

Rather than useless commentary, present something to counter my contention.

 

You are only relating Jesus to Conservatives...you are forgetting that there are two Testaments in the Christian Bible...the Old and the New. If you read the Old Testament you see violence everywhere...but it was used during wars.

But since Christianity is based on the life and teaching of Christ lets go with it.

Jesus tought us about the value and sanctity of a life...Conservatives opose abortion and want to save the lives of unborn, defenseless children...liberals on the other hand advocate abortion as a method of birth control.

Jesus also treated each and every person, regardless of stature or wealth, with the same respect and treated them as equals. Conservatives advocate for the equal treatment of all people, whether or not it is equal tax cuts, fair and balanced social programs...liberals choose to do the opposite. The liberal chooses to give handouts to people so that they are dependent on the liberal time and time again for food, water, shelter, clothing. Like a drug dealer the liberal makes their money on the come-back...in the form of votes. They scare the people getting the handouts that the Conservative person will stop the handouts...then how would they survive. The conservative, on the otherhand, would show the person how to make a living so that they can rely on themselves to provide for their family, make a better life for their family, more than the handouts the liberal gives.

Yeah...liberals are really better Christians than Conservatives.

 

werd... give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day... teach a man to fish and he'll eat for a lifetime.

 

First, "Jesus tought us about the value and sanctity of a life". You obviously have not learned that lesson. You support death and war, not life. By electing and supporting leaders that innitiate war and use chemical weapons against their own people by strapping them to a bed and injecting them with death. Your hands are full of blood. You are a guilty as the exicutioner who pushes the plunger.

Second, since when is a fetus a child? The bottom line is, if you don't want to have an abortion, then don't, but keep your choice out of other women's woombs. If you want to save the child, then go ahead. Remove the fetus from the woman and save the child. Good luck.

Third, Liberals do not advocate abortion as a form of birth control, they believe that it is a woman's choice to have a baby or not. I don't believe I would ever want my wife to abort a pregnency. But, I and you have no right to make that choice for another.

Forth, conservatives do not advocate for the equal treatment of all people, "equal tax cuts, fair and balanced social programs". How is 10 million dollars for Bill Gates and 10 dollars for you and me an equal tax cut. "Balanced social programs"? Try no social programs. When was the last social program innitiated by a conservative? Just greed and dog eat dog competition for survival.

Fith, "The liberal chooses to give handouts to people so that they are dependent on the liberal time and time again"? Liberals don't like to give hand outs, but are compassionate. Helping the needy is a Christian value. Church charity drives, the Christian childrens, fund, Soup kitchens run by churches, homeless shelters, Mother Thressa. Charity is a necessity for those who are unable to compete in a greedy consumption driven society. The Christian value is to give, not to take and take and take and take.

Sixth, "The conservative, on the otherhand, would show the person how to make a living"? Conservative policy always has cut education and job programs. They do not teach people how to make a living. They make it more difficult by always seeming to make the unemployment rate rise.

However, in general, you missed the point. Liberal is, by definition, to give openhandedly. Conservative is, by definition, to preserve established practices. Jesus did not act to preserve, he acted to change. And he did change. Unfortunately, conservatives have been changing it back. Our society is now much like the society in which Jesus lived and acted to change.

 

DVPGSR One more thing. anyone that opposes abortion because it is taking life and then turns around to support war and the death penelty is a hypocrite


SUPPORT OUR TROOPS. NOT PRESIDENT BUSH. BRING THEM HOME NOW.

 

Odysseus, anyone that opposes war with a person that made their bed and is now lieing in it but advocates a womens right to choose to kill an unborn, innocent, defenseless child is the real hypocrite.

I am all for going to war so that WMD cannot be used against us and/or our allies and friends. And please show me which leader I elected that uses WMD.

And if a woman does not want to have a child the choice is made during the act of intercourse when she chooses not to use any form of contraception. And if she does get pregnant and does not want the child there are more humane ways of dealing with an unwanted pregnancy. Like adoption! But I must say that I am pro-choice, simply because I believe if abortion is outlawed people will still do it in an unsafe environment that is not government regulated and you risk not only loosing the child but also the mother. I do however stress the need to have a viable and easy solution to abortion as another alternative for the expecting mother.

And if Bill Gates gets $10million and I get $10 because we both got a 10% tax reduction that is fine with me...because I know that if I ever make the same amount of money as Bill does I will get the same tax cut as everyone else. Do not fault Bill Gates because he makes a lot of money and discriminate against him because of it.

And I didnt miss you point at all...I actually shot a whole $hit load of holes in it!