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Old 07-20-2003 | 11:45 AM
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China has many more nukes than north korea.


And as for the political right... where are the WMD? I'm still waiting.
Old 07-20-2003 | 02:00 PM
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china has more nukes than that little puppet north korea. i mean when youre a small child and all your classmates hates you, who do you look for money and food ? your big daddy of course. we dont even know how many nukes china has and is making. just imagine , they have all the man power they can get at a fraction of the cost all damb hardworking because to them lazy means family starving. unlike here where if you dont work, theres the 6 months unemployment funds and so on. again just my thought.
Old 07-20-2003 | 02:01 PM
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Originally posted by qtiger
China has many more nukes than north korea.


And as for the political right... where are the WMD? I'm still waiting.
qtiger they HAVE found the WMD but not in iraq, its in north korea. hehehe
Old 07-20-2003 | 05:07 PM
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i dont think US military is that strong anymore, wait till china wakes up and ask us " hey you got oil in there ? we need them thanks " by that time we are the iraq guys.
China has a large army...they have a much smaller, and poorer trained, airforce and navy, and they have 12 nuclear ICBMs. China cannot do anything to the US militarily...they could not get enough troops over to America to take it over and if they tried they would be sitting ducks in the ocean for the Pacific fleet.

Besides we are China's #1 consumer...China is not that stupid to bite the hand that is feeding it.

And if China was so great and powerful and the US is "powerless" to stop them as you have clearly implied, why has China not invaded Taiwan? Because they know they cannot win against the US and will loose all they have gained in the international communtity in the past 10 years of modernization.

we don't have to worry about china.

we have to worry about north korea.

and they have nukes.
1. & 2. I agree...North Korea has more to gain from starting a war than China...it is those that have nothing to loose that I fear the most.

3. If they do it may be an untested bomb...until we see NK properly execute a test of a nuclear weapon we don't even know if it is going to work.

And as for the political right... where are the WMD? I'm still waiting.
When they are found you will be able to see them. He still has biological and chemical weapons we knew he had that are still unacountable. Saddam had 12 years to hide them...I am not surprised they have not turned up in 4 months. Besides country is still not safe yet...once it is more resources can be shifted to finding the WMD.
Old 07-20-2003 | 09:47 PM
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
China has a large army...they have a much smaller, and poorer trained, airforce and navy, and they have 12 nuclear ICBMs. China cannot do anything to the US militarily...they could not get enough troops over to America to take it over and if they tried they would be sitting ducks in the ocean for the Pacific fleet.

Besides we are China's #1 consumer...China is not that stupid to bite the hand that is feeding it.

And if China was so great and powerful and the US is "powerless" to stop them as you have clearly implied, why has China not invaded Taiwan? Because they know they cannot win against the US and will loose all they have gained in the international communtity in the past 10 years of modernization.
this is really a matter of opinion, but i think you should ask your history lecturer about china in the past and china now.

as for the question why china didnt invade taiwan, the answer is the same as to why america didnt use the nuclear weapon on north korea during the korean war and now.
Old 07-20-2003 | 10:03 PM
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Something I noticed about most of you Republicans that post here arguing the "liberal crybabies".

YOURE MILITARY!! THATS why you love Bush!! He makes sure you have a job!!! I see perfectly now! hheheheeheh j/k
Old 07-25-2003 | 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
Something I noticed about most of you Republicans that post here arguing the "liberal crybabies".

YOURE MILITARY!! THATS why you love Bush!! He makes sure you have a job!!! I see perfectly now! hheheheeheh j/k
actually, I'm going to be military, shortly.

Its just a matter of opinions on politics, and being able to put your veiws aside. Something I'm going to need to learn alot of h:

as for china.

they're not a threat. They never really were much of a threat.

most of the Communism bullshit was blown out of proportion. Even with vietnam. The leader of NV was not directly communistic. But when he couldn't get assistance from the US (since south vietnam was getting assistance from Britan, and the US will never take an opposite side from britan), they went to Russia. Some of his officers, on the other hand, were communistic.

As for north korea, there's only two other countrys I'm more worried about toppling the balance of peace.

Isreal and America
Old 07-25-2003 | 09:16 PM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
Something I noticed about most of you Republicans that post here arguing the "liberal crybabies".

YOURE MILITARY!! THATS why you love Bush!! He makes sure you have a job!!! I see perfectly now! hheheheeheh j/k
I never was in the military. Much of my family was, and is. My cousin's husband got back from Afghanistan in October and was shipped to Iraq in Feb. My opinion is that we support the troups and the President in a time of war. This is a time of war. I think we have to realize we are all in it together, and whether you agree with the President or not, you should support him because he is leading our country through tough times, and I think we're getting through it allright. I can tell you for sure that on Dec. 6, 1941, the Republicans were still not very friendly with FDR, just like the Dems are today with Bush. But they put party differences asside on Dec. 7. Now, the Dems put party differences asside a little after 9/11. But not as much as they should have. To this day, they should be giving the President everything he wants, and then some. Infinite solidarity. I guess they just don't have the fortitude.
Old 07-25-2003 | 09:51 PM
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Originally posted by fastball
I never was in the military. Much of my family was, and is. My cousin's husband got back from Afghanistan in October and was shipped to Iraq in Feb. My opinion is that we support the troups and the President in a time of war. This is a time of war. I think we have to realize we are all in it together, and whether you agree with the President or not, you should support him because he is leading our country through tough times, and I think we're getting through it allright. I can tell you for sure that on Dec. 6, 1941, the Republicans were still not very friendly with FDR, just like the Dems are today with Bush. But they put party differences asside on Dec. 7. Now, the Dems put party differences asside a little after 9/11. But not as much as they should have. To this day, they should be giving the President everything he wants, and then some. Infinite solidarity. I guess they just don't have the fortitude.

You're comparing an attack made 60 years ago by a foriegn NATION, which was bound to happen anyway, against the US to us now leading a pre-emptive strike against a 2nd world nation that has done nothing to threaten American citizens and could not fight back, with most of the world protesting it. You should support the troops by not putting them in harms way when we dont need to. Bush's job has been OSAMA BIN LADEN. What did Saddam do to us? Seriously? Last I checked, Osama wasn't spelled I.R.A.Q.

Come on man, I know you can make a stronger point than that.

Besides, the link provided in the first place could mean anything. Hell ... if they come in my apt, they'll find styrofoam and assume "If he had gasoline, he coulda made NAPALM." Give me a break ... having materials to make a weapon, doesn't mean you are. That's not proof, a smoking gun, or even a loaded gun. Hell, who knows .... that was probably doctored up as much as Lynches "rescue" or even planted there by the CIA in the first place! LOL
Old 07-26-2003 | 05:15 AM
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Originally posted by fastball
I never was in the military. Much of my family was, and is. My cousin's husband got back from Afghanistan in October and was shipped to Iraq in Feb. My opinion is that we support the troups and the President in a time of war. This is a time of war. I think we have to realize we are all in it together, and whether you agree with the President or not, you should support him because he is leading our country through tough times, and I think we're getting through it allright. I can tell you for sure that on Dec. 6, 1941, the Republicans were still not very friendly with FDR, just like the Dems are today with Bush. But they put party differences asside on Dec. 7. Now, the Dems put party differences asside a little after 9/11. But not as much as they should have. To this day, they should be giving the President everything he wants, and then some. Infinite solidarity. I guess they just don't have the fortitude.
9/11 is OVER and DONE. I simply cannot wait for everyone to stop overusing it as an excuse for everything that's wrong with the administration, and/or complaining that the dems aren't still bent over the table letting the republican party rape them.



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