thats cool, I never had respect for you.

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I cannot believe that you actually think that everyone in the military cheats on their wife is a drunk or beats and rapes women.

I never said everyone did.

but how about that airforce academy scandel? Just because everyone doesn't do it doesn't mean nobody does.

its called example. And look at history. Many empiralistic rules had their share of rape. Its nothing new, and definatly not limited to us.

way to take me out of context :goodjob:

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Sure abuse happens

case in point.

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but it happened one whole hell of a lot more in Colorado then it has happened since I have been in the Army. I am married, my wife is in Iraq she is a Military Police Officer, and I have never cheated on her nor will I.

good for you, you're not what I'm talking about.

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I truly believe as a soldier that the war in Iraq is best for their people in the long run.

so you feel.

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My wife tells me on a weekly basis that it is amazing to have Iraqi children run up to her happily.

but how many adults aren't?

too bad its not the kids who are blowing things up. Maybe we'd actually be making some progress, then.

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My wife has been shot at so therefore she has seen more combat than probably everyone on this board combined.

probably, but that doesn't mean shit, honestly.

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I didn't go because in exactly 94 days I will be a civilian again. One of the worst thing that I can think of happening would be another bitch a$$ democrat in office for eight years saying I did not have sexual relations with that woman, or his wife not recalling what had happened and then suddenly writing a book recalling all the details when she is getting paid to remember that is how Democrat's work nowdays.

better than republican presidents who get us in wars, overspend and throw us in debt, and lie to us.

lets see here:

EISENHOWER'S FAILURES AS PRESIDENT

5. He Failed to Improve the Plight of the American Farmer.

The goal of his farm policy was to get government out of agriculture and strengthen the family farmer. He failed at both.

4. He Failed to Moderate the Republican Party.

This was a personal goal of Eisenhower's. He wanted to reenergize and modernize the Republican Party, making it less conservative and more acceptable to mainstream America. His failure became evident when Republicans nominated the conservative Barry Goldwater as their presidential candidate in 1964.

3. He Failed to Provide Leadership in Civil Rights.

He did not actively support the 1954 Brown decision abolishing segregation in public schools. In fact, he believed that to immediately enforce the Court's ruling was a mistake and would only lead to conflict. Critics suggest that if he had expressed a personal commitment to civil rights, the Court's ruling would not have met with such defiance in Little Rock, and Central High could have been integrated without the employment of the U.S. Army. To his credit though, he did sponsor and sign the Civil Rights Act of 1957.

2. He Failed to Denounce Senator Joseph McCarthy.

Had he publicly condemned McCarthy and his investigations, there would have been much less damage inflicted on innocent lives and the country's morale. But Eisenhower believed that to personally confront McCarthy would demean the Presidency and give McCarthy exactly what he craved: more publicity.


AND EISENHOWER'S NO.1 FAILURE AS PRESIDENT:

1. He Failed to Defuse the Cold War.

He certainly tried. And he seemed to be on the verge of success when the Premier of the Soviet Union, Nikita Khrushchev, visited the U.S. in 1959 and agreed to a Paris Peace Conference for the following spring. But then the Soviets shot down the U-2 spy plane, Khrushchev scuttled the peace conference, and all hope of deflating the Cold War ended. When Eisenhower left office, the Cold War was even more threatening than when he embarked upon the presidency eight years before.

even the best doesn't do enough. We're all human, and we all fuck up. But being able to say we're wrong is what makes us honest, trustworthy, and forgiven

bush is getting us in debt. Reagan did a great job getting us *great* weapons programs like the b1 bomber and star wars. We all know how well those turned out :down:

regardless, democrats aren't much better. Johnson got us in Vietnam. Kennedy messed with the mob. Everyone knows of clinton. I think we get the point.

so don't start talking to me about democrats.

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If you have never served one day in Military uniform I truly believe that you should not be able to be the President of the United States.

ignorance

75% of the millitary is there for education and self-betterment. The rest are marines.

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In order for you to be Commander in Chief of the Military I don't think you should be a draft dodger who didn't serve cause mommy and daddy had money and sent you to England.

what about bush who didn't serve in vietnam? He did a stint in the texas air nation guard, and even then went awol his finaly year.

great commander in cheif.....

Chenny dodged vietnam. So did Rummy.

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Entirely not fair. My Grandfather fought in WW2 and the Korean war, I am a member of the VFW for serving in Korea in 2000.

whats your point? Alot of people fought in WW2. I had several relitives there.

the korean war was a bunch of bullshit

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You may not know this but the United States soldiers in the Northern part of South Korea are considered a speed bump because we would never be able to stop their numbers from getting to Seoul where the United States and the ROK army would hold until units from America could relieve us.

that figures. Besides, NK has nukes.

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However Donald Rumsfield is seriously talking about a withdrawl of US soldiers from both Korea and Germany.

we don't really need them in germany. And they're probably leaving from korea to ease some tension with the north.

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If you have such a bad opinion of the very people wich volunteer to protect your freedoms then Fawk off move to Canada and France cause without people like me you wouldn't have your precious rights.

ummm, first ammendment? dipshit.

My problems arn't with the military. Well, they kinda are, but personally, I'm pacifist.

regardless, my issues come from washington and the fools who lead us, and give us misinformation, and on top of everything, won't admit they're wrong.

4 simple words: Well, I was wrong.


why not?

see the underlined statements :goodjob:

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This reminds me of that little Elian Gonzales shit but on a bigger scale - gettin everything he wants courtesy of the US Govt.

I completely forgot about that.

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WW2 was the last war that was actually for a good reason.

:werd:

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However, we didn't know about the Nazi's "final solution" until 1945 at the end of the war when the concentration camps were found.

and even when we did, many people won't beleive it for years....

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We got drawn in because of politics. The Japanese was a different story, though - that was bound to happen.

yeah, but the japanese attacked pearl harbor.

if you want to get into dec. 7th, and how it may have been bad for us, do me a favor and look into how america came to conquer hawaii. Honestly, the more I think about it, the more I think dec 7th was karmatic in some way or another.

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In response to this comment, all I have to say is WW2 was fought for the freedom of France to be able to make their own choices and to NOT be a puppet to US Imperialism. I applaud them for telling Bush to get stuffed on his war plans, and I'd like to take this time to thank them for the foundations for our Constitution, the Statue of Liberty, Chevrolet, the movie projector ... what else have the French given us? We're so ****ing ungrateful here. *sigh*

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Yea ... so they can wage war against the NEW enemy. First, it was the Indian, then it was the Communists, NOW ... its the Muslims. Everyone is a terrorist over there, dont you pay attention what what "Homeland Security" tells you? I dont have a bad opinion of the people who volunteer to serve in the forces, but I do of the people who give their orders. Besides, I dont think you're not really protecting our freedoms until I see a Korean tank rolling down Pennsylvania Ave or we ACTUALLY find the WMD that we've heard so many scarey stories of. Until we get attacked (and I dont want to her 9/11 crap from you conservatives), I feel perfectly safe in this country with our troops where they belong - HERE. Also, I dont see Canada and France having any less "rights" (if thats what they still call them) as we do here. And besides, why would I want to leave this shithole of a country when I can USE those rights to make the place better for everyone? It's called change and democracy, and thats why those rights were granted in the first place.

yeah, yeah, and yeah.

 

8 freaking pages of worthless back and forth. I know you live for this shit 18Sec, but damn. Find another hobby besides getting into stalemate arguments.

 

Dear God man when are you going to realize that McCarthy was right on with all of his investigations about Soviet Spies.

 

If you dont like the forum, the basement is up one directory...

 

wow, now I know why Mike called you what he did. So instead of worrying about me, why don't you listen to SXE:



clearly we think differently on things...

 

=) I feel loved.

 

:kiss:

 

:hugglez:

 

will someone lock this friggin thread already... it's gone about 7 pages longer than it should have..

 

wow, its good to know I was right from the begining.....

everything I first posted still holds true.