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Old 09-02-2003 | 03:17 PM
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
I will admit that I am mad...pretty angry infact that not only did something like 9/11 happen, but also the fact our president is doing something to prevent another, more catastrophic attack and people speak out against it.
bullshit, he's making us a more open target.


You will never understand how it feels to have a list like I have of people that died on that day.
maybe, but I've known people to die. Whats the difference?

Not only that but I still have a lot of people I love and care for that work in NYC and do not want something to happen to them.
then they can fucking move. If I was in NYC when that happend, my ass would be out of there.

I truly do not want anything to happen to your family,
then why did you say that? And this:

but I do wish somehow you could understand because I think you would really have a completely different outlook on the whole subject matter.
I can say the same thing to you about my point.

But like you pointed out you are safe in Texas so why should you care.
exactly

And yes Ann Coulter may be the rights version of Michael Moore, although she has not made a movie and is certainly a lot better looking,
and that reason alone make me want to follow her....

all of her facts in her book check out.
they do not.

She does not lie,
yes she does

she does not concoct,
well, maybe she's just lazy

and she does not twist.
probably not on porpous. But she does anyways

You may not like to hear the truths she brings up but to try and pass them off as anything but good solid facts is ignorance.
truths like what?

that gore didn't invent the internet?

well, he kinda did. He pushed the program while it was a military work, and gave it financial backing.

so techniclly, he did. He just messed up his wording.

Bush, however, is a liar. If you don't see that, you're blinder than I.
Old 09-02-2003 | 06:33 PM
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Originally posted by DVPGSR
I will admit that I am mad...pretty angry infact that not only did something like 9/11 happen, but also the fact our president is doing something to prevent another, more catastrophic attack and people speak out against it. You will never understand how it feels to have a list like I have of people that died on that day. Not only that but I still have a lot of people I love and care for that work in NYC and do not want something to happen to them. I truly do not want anything to happen to your family, but I do wish somehow you could understand because I think you would really have a completely different outlook on the whole subject matter. But like you pointed out you are safe in Texas so why should you care.

Actually, Tom (it is, Tom, right?) I did lose 2 friends that worked IT jobs in the towers. There are also many families that did lose people on 9/11 but they were also fighting against the war because they know it wouldn't solve anything and only cause more problems. See http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/
Old 09-02-2003 | 07:59 PM
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Ann Coulter to Michael Moore? Well, Michael Moore looks up thing and Ann Coulter shoots her mouth off. He shoots his mouth off too, I'll give you that.

Bowling For Colombine is an awesome "movie." Really a documentary. Watch it some time, you'll be impressed by it. It doesn't do the typical "left v. right" BS that Moore is associated with.

Have you READ Slander or Treason? It's just full of a bunch of conservative jokes. It's funny, but it gets nothing accomplished to the reader. Well, I'm 38 pages into Al Franken's new book and I have yet to see an argument he makes very significant either. Oh well.
Old 09-02-2003 | 08:07 PM
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I am reading Treason right now...it is quite interesting...especially how she tears down the liberal stereotypes of McCarthy and the Red Scare. Especially now after part of the Venona tapes have been released to see how McCarthy was dead right on so many of his accusations at the time.
Old 09-02-2003 | 08:09 PM
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DVP, a lot of her stuff is good, but she doesn't do the best job of presenting it. Not to mention she comes off as a complete prick in interviews, mainly O'Rielly. Her major thing is "It's meant to be funny."
Old 09-02-2003 | 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by redgoober4life
DVP, a lot of her stuff is good, but she doesn't do the best job of presenting it. Not to mention she comes off as a complete prick in interviews, mainly O'Rielly. Her major thing is "It's meant to be funny."
To a liberal I can see her coming off as a prick...as a Conservative I laugh along with her...but she does not do a good job presenting her arguments...part of the reason many people write her off is because she is highly antagonistic...especially to the left. That said, her points and facts to back them up are right on.
Old 09-02-2003 | 08:42 PM
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DVP, I thought her stuff was "right on" too until, of course, I read Al Franken's book. Although the stuff he knit-picks about are insignificant, it's still kinda funny. I'd like to see her beat him up, he's dorky. h:
Old 09-02-2003 | 08:46 PM
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I may pick up Franken's book just to see what he says...I highly doubt it will change my mind though. Chances are it will on make my case stronger as to why I am a conservative.
Old 09-02-2003 | 08:53 PM
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I don't think highly of him yet. Maybe the extra 150 pages will help. Maybe not. I don't really take anything political people say too seriously. Hillary needs to just be happy with the money she has and well, gosh...the whole party revolves around the clintons, without the clintons they'd be nothing.
Old 09-02-2003 | 08:55 PM
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I actually think the Clintons ruined the Democratic party...or atleast they were the large straw that brok the camel's back. I feel bad for NY State...Hillary has done nothing for them.



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