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Old 07-26-2003 | 04:00 PM
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So then what do you propose we do? Just sit back and relax? Kick our feet up and say "well, that's in the past. Let's forget and move on. If we don't bother anyone, no one will bother us"? I'm not dwelling on the past, but I am using 9/11 as the motivation to rid the world of all the maniacs.
No, we step up and realize WHY we're hated and loathed. Then we AVOID confrontation. It takes a bigger person to settle without fighting.

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Bush has won alot of respect for his concept of a new world order, where the options are pretty much accept democracy or face the consequences.
Wow ... I love that. New World Order ... Hello Police State! You can't force your beliefs and ways of life on someone else. It's morally, ethically, and spiritually wrong, and it will bite you in the ass in the end.

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He's the first President I can remember who stepped to the plate to address the entire mid-east situation. Clinton tried, but these animals don't abide by handshakes and treaties.
Hmmmm these "animals" probably didn't agree and will never agree. This has been going on, as you say, since Biblical times. It's never going to end and to think it will is sheer stupidity. Who's more of an animal though? The groups in conflict, or the 3rd party that comes in and tries to settle their dispute without being in their shoes? No wonder everyone hates the USA, we can't keep our nose out of everyone elses affairs.

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We crumbled a regime they thought would give us serious problems in one month. We have eliminated that regime's lifeblood, that being Hussein's sons, and now that has happened, Iran, while not very public about it, is very worried.
Wow ... they REALLY had weapons, man. Believe me, I feel so much safer now that we took them out.
*cough*bs*cough*

Ok, back to REALITY. If they had WMD, why didnt they use them when we attacked? I guess instead of defending themselves and their native country with weapons that could do the job, they would much rather die. Yea, that sure makes sense to me. But hey, look on the bright side, attacking a 2nd world nation without any means to defend themselves is great for the polls! Hurray for the voters!

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As well they should be. See, this is the time we go all out. They started this freaking mess, and by God we're gonna finish it. We've got the power, the people, and the guns to do it. As far as I'm concerned, the fighting that has gone on since biblical times is gonna come to an end one way or another. And if 9/11 was the catalyst, so be it. I know I sound like some good 'ole boy, but that's how I feel it has to be.
Well that settles it! GOD has given America his permisson and blessing to **** the rest of the world up. I seriously cannot believe the crap you come up with.
Old 07-26-2003 | 04:14 PM
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I seriously cannot believe the crap you come up with.
Well, ditto.
Old 07-27-2003 | 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
It takes a bigger person to settle without fighting.
oh please. that's just something parents say to their kid that gets beat up in school to make them feel better about being a pussy.
Old 07-27-2003 | 11:41 AM
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Originally posted by fastball
So then what do you propose we do? Just sit back and relax? Kick our feet up and say "well, that's in the past. Let's forget and move on. If we don't bother anyone, no one will bother us"?
actually, thats a great start.

I'm not dwelling on the past, but I am using 9/11 as the motivation to rid the world of all the maniacs.
that'll never happen.

Bush has won alot of respect for his concept of a new world order,
don't you just cringe at that phrase? Doesn't "New World Order" bother you at all? Am I the only one who thinks that phrase seals the fate of the world?

where the options are pretty much accept democracy or face the consequences.
contrary to popular belief, democracy isn't the only form of government.

He's the first President I can remember who stepped to the plate to address the entire mid-east situation.
because he was pretty much forced to. Took him a whole 2 years before he finally got around to it. Esecially considering how tensions flaired once Sharon visited that one site. Temple Mount? or something.....

Clinton tried, but these animals don't abide by handshakes and treaties.
he's not the only prez who tried and failed, also. Isreal has been starting shit since they first were formed back in '48.

I can't see why people blame palistine so much. Granted they don't like the jews much either, they were displaced from there land. Of course they're gonna retaliate. Ask the indians.

I don't know where some people have been, but much of the mid-east is now seriously shaking in their towels.
how do you know? whens the last time you visited the region?

We crumbled a regime they thought would give us serious problems in one month.
um, they are still giving us problems. unless soldiers dying isn't a problem.

We have eliminated that regime's lifeblood, that being Hussein's sons,
not only are they propaganda (well, their bodies), but they're also meaningless. They didn't run the country. They didn't even run the resistance thats occuring. Sure they were twisted fucks, but here in america, we have our own share of twisted fucks.

and now that has happened, Iran, while not very public about it, is very worried. As well they should be. See, this is the time we go all out.
ummm, listen to yourself...

They started this freaking mess, and by God we're gonna finish it. We've got the power, the people, and the guns to do it.
but do we have the right?

As far as I'm concerned, the fighting that has gone on since biblical times is gonna come to an end one way or another.
but adding fuel to a fire doesn't make the fire go away.

And if 9/11 was the catalyst, so be it. I know I sound like some good 'ole boy, but that's how I feel it has to be.
thats because thats the way it is. Because despite all of our opinions, and our beliefs, and what we feel is right and wrong, this is all still going to happen. Its part of the plan.
Old 07-27-2003 | 12:30 PM
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You guys should post all this stuff in the "Biggest Thread..." we have. ;-)

I do agree mostly with 18secFerio on most terms. He should haven't mentioned #2 altogether. Caused a big pile of arguments because of his "what-ifs".

We need more alternatives Al-Jazeeras. Even if you dont believe them, at least promotes Freedom of speech and biased believes will not be able to cicrculate as much.

Looking at the knowledge of some of the people in here. I have no right to speak, but it does look like some poeple have to open themselves to some possibilities of how this world works.
Old 07-27-2003 | 02:59 PM
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Originally posted by /^Blackmagik^\
oh please. that's just something parents say to their kid that gets beat up in school to make them feel better about being a pussy.
oh please. you just want to keep your job by going to war with half the world.
Old 07-27-2003 | 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by sxecrow
oh please. you just want to keep your job by going to war with half the world.
you get beat up a lot don't you?
Old 07-27-2003 | 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by /^Blackmagik^\
you get beat up a lot don't you?
Never did. Why? You used to defending yourself a lot? I never had to worry about it when I was growing up.
Old 08-06-2003 | 01:25 PM
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Blah blah blah this is such an either or topic. The country went to war-not Bush. Congress gave him the go-ahead. Granted, saying there are 2 stable governments in each country is ignorant. It seems, however, the people in both countries (the people, not the radical extremists) are happy we evicted the Taliban and the Saddam regime. Bush did make a big stink about WMD's in Iraq. That's all he talked about, for the most part, before the war. So liberals that want to attack that is fair game. Of course, he probably did have them, and he probably sold them to ther countries or just gave them to people that hate us equally.
Old 08-06-2003 | 04:09 PM
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Originally posted by 18secFerio
....I thought this thread would be apprieciated. It was compiled by a friend of mine, so I'll do my best to defend it in cooperation with him, but his beliefs are pretty much mine as well, so without futher ado...

btw, I can't wait to say "I told you so" h:

His "Coffee Shop Putsch" failed and he's using us to perfect his manifesto.



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