See, I'm not gonna stereotype anybody, but a LOT of republicans I knew took every opportunity to poke fun at Clinton, and so while I don't know how anyone else on this board has reacted to past presidents, the likely thing is that people have made fun of leaders with divergent viewpoints from themselves...

And I look at the jokes like Gravedigger's humor... I personally think W's policies are literally a threat to healthy living on this planet... I mean I know realistically he wouldn't be singlehandedly responsible, but what he's ALLOWING is, in my opinion, a curse on future americans...

 

For once Mike I absolutely agree with you. America would not be America without the input of all the little countries we are meddling with. I am sick of hearing about this war, we may be the greatest nation today but the way we are going tomorrow we might be calling for help.

 

These things wouldn't happen with Bush. Some(many) say his foreign policy is too aggressive, but learning from your predecessors mistakes is something you must do. He saw a risk of something similiar to Rwanda occurring in Iraq(though he may have been too late, seeing as how several million were killed under Saddam), and didn't want to make the same mistake as Clinton. Clinton has been quoted as saying he made a huge mistake in not intervening, it's not that tough of a line to draw...

 

Exactly! you just dont giv respect to someone jsut for the hell of it.
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I have the right to give my respect to anyone i want, you cant force me.

 

So instead you split your army to fight two wars on different fronts. In addition, you have major security obligations in Korea, Japan, and Europe. There is problem with being overly aggressive too...the US army is spread really thin. During the Rwandan crisis, part of the reason the US didn't join is because we were already stationed in the aforementioned countries, as well as Saudi Arabia and Bosnia.

So there is a question of whether a country should get involved in the civil wars of other countries, especially if there are no interests to protect. The US had one about 150 years ago, and the British, had they decided to do so, would have intervened on behalf of the Confederacy, and if they did we'd probably singing Dixie as our national anthem today (or possibly God Save the Queen). Do you always want other countries barging in on your business, even if it is the business of war?

 

I think what really needs to happen is that as many people as possible need to get out there and vote. Nobody cared about the 2000 election until after it turned into the fiasco it did because of vote counting. The country was relatively stable at the time and since overall a good portion of regular folks out there were happy with the status quo there was not a lot of political discussion going on.

I think one thing Bush has done positively is get a lot more people involved in politics, even if they are fundamentally opposed to his ideas and his administration. So whatever it is you may feel about the state of things as they are right now, do the right thing and get out the vote. The only way we have a truly representative government is if the people in office embody the ideas of the public.

I can only hope there are enough people out there that are not hardcore Republicans and can see that Bush has done enough harm to our country, and that they vote accordingly.

 

The problem is some of the people who want to vote can't because the immigration laws prevents them from doing so. Oh I would love to vote against some of the idiotic things I see, but law says I can't. When a country has a majority of foreign nationals and the rest are all sheep to the media you are left with a handful of people who actually vote for the right reasons.

 

definetely, too bad i dont turn 18 before the election though. my friend does, hes got my vote.

 

sure it is.. the loss of jobs we are seeing and have seen over the past couple years is due to one simple thing... cheap labor elsewhere... there were two things that your precious clinton did while in office that strongly contributed to that. first, the increase in minimum wage, which caused an increase in the jobless rate simply because businesses had to shell out more money for their work force. secondly, NAFTA, which gave these businesses that lost a significant amount of profit with the minimum wage hike a place to do business and make up their lost profit. Now, those "average joe" type of people that the minimum wage hike helped initially are in the unemployment line. the restructuring is jobs going elsewhere for less money

 

I'm as far right as one can legally go :thumbup:

I'm just so sick of saying the same shit over and over to a bunch of ignorance retards