You all know my opinion, and I don't feel like wasting time with this thread. Therefore I will act ignorant like so many people around here

 

 

The reason it takes a college degree to get a decent job in the US is because the ratio of jobs to workers is getting worse every year. If you want the higher paying jobs, you have to make yourself better than the next guy. As more and more immigrants come to the US our job's are going overseas. Pretty soon you'll have to have a masters degree to get a job that pays $30K a year. Some people say the mexicans only do jobs that we don't want anymore. Sure but when you make $12 an hour to hang drywall your really making = to a tax payer that makes $17 an hour. The average worker can do his job with a computer, and a phone. Which means it can be done from anywhere. Thousands of jobs go to India each month, because the labor is so much cheaper. A software programmer in the India makes 25% what a programmer in the US makes. Bottom line every US citizen can get a college degree, but that will only even the competition across everyone. It will not affect the economy at all. So you'll end up with $40K in student loans for a job that pays a measly $30K a year. Good luck paying that one off. If you want the economy to boom, you have to create jobs not invite in illegals, and let American Companies take business elsewhere.

 

I voted for Bush. I am glad i did. I am glad he has put his foot down and put a little fear into potential terrorists. Clinton sat around and banged hit intern instead of worrying about the safety of the US people. He didnt get to the bottom of the USS COle bombing. He let Osama Walk without even blinking an eye. I am sure all the family members who lost people in 9/11 are very happy about that one
He was way too worried about the public opinion. a few soldiers are lost in overseas endeavors and he immediately pulls out showing weakness.

Dean shot himself directly in the foot when he made the huge deal about us not even getting Saddam after the war in Iraq only to have that event happen after he opened his mouth.


and those people who were against the war in iraq. DO you think that what Saddam did to his people was ok? I think people threw a mild hissy fit when someone by the name of Hitler did the exact same.

 

I think if pretty much the whole UN disagrees with Bush about going to war and he still does it, it pisses off a whole lotta countries. We are not the global police, let the UN decide what is best for the country. We invaded Iraq for "chemical weapons and weapons of mass destruction" yet we didnt find any. Maybe if we minded our own business like mexico we wouldnt have so many terrorist attacks. Shouldnt we be trying to fix the problems in America today, other than trying to fix problems in the rest of the world.
Liek some ppl say, Who cares? Who cares about other countries, let them rot to hell, although Iraq does provide some oil. We drive Hondas! we shouldnt hav to worry much about gasoline.

 

Amen, I'm so sick of hearing about WMD's too. That's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. He needed to be out of power wether he was a threat to the US or not, for the sake of his own people. AND those in neighboring countries.

 

Civic_love, Booty, vellfarretokyo.... Very well said all of you. :goodjob:


I said in the On Topic discussion prior to the invasion of Iraq, and I'll say it again.

Patriotism does not equal blind faith.

Ashcroft, Rumsfeld and Cheney are in my opinion, an imminent threat to the Republic.

They are putting profit margins before prudence. American soldiers are dying by the hundreds to do little more than line the pockets of Halliburton shareholders.

Our forces are left divided between Afghanistan and Iraq; in neither campaign is there a concrete "exit strategy".

Meanwhile, the domestic issues of immigration, environmental regulation, unemployment and education - to name only a few - are at best being neglected like never before.

Need I remind you, these people we elect work for US! Instead of providing support, solutions and protection, we are being oppressed by fear and denied the services we are owed by our democracy, simply to oust leaders we find undesirable.

And now talks of space exploration are being used to forestall discussion of Bush's dismal record of domestic neglect. [ Mars Distracts!]

When we are being manipulated and lied to so blatantly, how can you NOT question the merits of this administration?

:angry: These people work for US! :angry:

 

True that, I really don't understand the liberal view. War is always going to happen the only thing that matters is who comes out on top and I am thankful that our president is taaking the steps to make sure that we do come out on top. If clinton or some other democratic puke was inn office during these years it would be a lot worse. And yes Clinton was a draft dodger.xChickenshitX

 

Ousting Saddam Hussein is probably one of the worst things we could do for the Middle East. Why? Now there's a huge power vacuum in Iraq, and for the next couple of years, various factions are going to be fighting for control in Iraq, and the US will be right in the middle of it all. We also lost a lot of public support in the middle east since we went through with the whole "Great Imperialist Satan" stereotype and actually took over two countries. Other Middle Eastern leaders are going to be a little wary of us now too, not just because we might take them over, but because public opinion in their countries of us is going to force them to balance appeasing us and appeasing their citizens. And because we are major allies with Israel, I'd be willing to bet that Israeli-Palestinian violence is going to escalate in the next couple of years. All because of this war. Now the rift between the Middle East and the Western world is wider than it was before, and we are going to have a hard time convincing anyone in the Middle East of anything, including such things as democracy, reform, and religious freedom.

Now I wasn't a big fan of Clinton, but I'd say that at least he had a vision for this country (even if some people disagreed with it) and he knew how to get there. Bush doesn't seem to have a plan...like this war. There was never any discussion about what we would accomplish and how we would get out of Iraq or Afghanistan. Yeah, we were supposed to find WMD and kill of the Taliban, but what then? Establishment of a transition state that would lead to a new democratic state? Transition to UN control (that kind of went out the window when we went in on our accord)? Establishment of Iraqi led democracy with US military support for a decade? My impression of this whole mess is that we're just playing it by ear, making it up as we go. That's one way to get us stuck with a military commitment for a decade or more, just like in Vietnam. I would be less opposed to this whole war if we went in with defined objectives and exit strategies, and with international support.

 

My general feeling is that the President is doing a mediocre job. This, however, does not mean I do not have respect for him, unlike some here.

End of my $0.02.