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Old 05-15-2006 | 08:39 PM
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And after my latest thread post, I actually started to gain a tiny bit of respect for the administration. That was recently destroyed when I read this:

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/...l_source_.html

A federal source has warned ABC News that the U.S. government is tracking the phone calls made by its reporters—as well as those of journalists working for the New York Times and Washington Post—in an attempt to trace the sources of recent leaks that have proven embarrassing to the Bush White House.

Makes me sick...I hate fall in Wisconsin but I can't wait for November this year
Old 05-16-2006 | 06:28 AM
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Well when the left wing media plays politics with our national security and repeatedly undermines the security of this nation to try and make the President look bad they should expect nothing less. What certain media institutions and personel are doing is committing treason under the guise of "freedom of press". That is highly illegal and an abuse of their power. I hope these people are strung up for the crimes they have commited and a message is sent to the rest of the media that you do not play games with national security. Fabricating a false story to embarrass a president is one thing...undermining current methods of protecting our nation is treason.
Old 05-16-2006 | 06:50 AM
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Old 05-16-2006 | 08:02 AM
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So the government is trying to figure out who is leaking classified information about our most sensitive anti-terrorism policies. I believe that's against the law.
Old 05-16-2006 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
Well when the left wing media plays politics with our national security and repeatedly undermines the security of this nation to try and make the President look bad they should expect nothing less. What certain media institutions and personel are doing is committing treason under the guise of "freedom of press". That is highly illegal and an abuse of their power. I hope these people are strung up for the crimes they have commited and a message is sent to the rest of the media that you do not play games with national security. Fabricating a false story to embarrass a president is one thing...undermining current methods of protecting our nation is treason.
Are you serious? So Woodward was wrong? The revealing of NSA was wrong? The publication of numerous reports that suspect the administration of lying was wrong?

The pres plays a role in keeping the government in check. There are few limits to freedom of press. To suggest that there should be otherwise is UNAMERICAN.

How do these things undermine our security? Remember, without freedom, our country is not worth fighting for.
Old 05-16-2006 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
Are you serious? So Woodward was wrong? The revealing of NSA was wrong? The publication of numerous reports that suspect the administration of lying was wrong?

The pres plays a role in keeping the government in check. There are few limits to freedom of press. To suggest that there should be otherwise is UNAMERICAN.

How do these things undermine our security? Remember, without freedom, our country is not worth fighting for.
Are you kidding me??? You have got to be joking!!

The revelation by any media source of ongoing operations to protect this country from further terrorist attacks is treason. Especially when it is done, not out of national security, but out of disdain for a sitting President.

The press does not play any direct role in keeping government in check. They have no such mandate. Our founding fathers have set this government up so there are checks and balances between the three branches of government. And while the freedom of press is wide ranging the line is drawn when it comes to treason or the outing of ongoing intelligence gathering capabilities. They have no such freedoms exposing those activities...especially when they are conducted against those that wish to do this country harm.

How do these revelations hurt our national security?? Every Al Qaeda member now has a new phone number or cell phone as they now know their old ones were being listened too. The are also changing their plans on how to communicate with their operatives inside the US and elsewhere. Both measures are setting back our capabilities to uncover their plots...hopefully they are not able to gain from this. But that is a big gamble our press took, a gamble with American lives.
Old 05-16-2006 | 05:09 PM
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Ha! I enjoy your insight into how al-Queda works and what effect the media has on them. You make it sound as if they were oblivious to the government completely before the (gasp!) media stepped into the picture.

Of course, I would not be thinking this if the liberal media wasn't whispering it into my ear. Oh, that's right...bias in the media will ALWAYS exist on both ends. You know what else? It is so incrediably insignificant, it is almost like it is not there!

But you are right, we should not know about the secret camps across the world that detain prisoners without trial. Torture? Pah! Liberal bias! Generals suggesting Rumsfield resign? Liberals again! Blatant lying of the administration? Lies! All of them!

In FACT, if it wasn't for the liberal bias in the media, 9/11 would have never happened and Osama bin Laden would be dead right now!
Old 05-16-2006 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DVPGSR
Well when the left wing media plays politics with our national security and repeatedly undermines the security of this nation to try and make the President look bad they should expect nothing less. What certain media institutions and personel are doing is committing treason under the guise of "freedom of press". That is highly illegal and an abuse of their power. I hope these people are strung up for the crimes they have commited and a message is sent to the rest of the media that you do not play games with national security. Fabricating a false story to embarrass a president is one thing...undermining current methods of protecting our nation is treason.
not one to let common sense get in the way of fear mongering population control, are we?
Old 05-16-2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MellowGold
Ha! I enjoy your insight into how al-Queda works and what effect the media has on them. You make it sound as if they were oblivious to the government completely before the (gasp!) media stepped into the picture.

Of course, I would not be thinking this if the liberal media wasn't whispering it into my ear. Oh, that's right...bias in the media will ALWAYS exist on both ends. You know what else? It is so incrediably insignificant, it is almost like it is not there!

But you are right, we should not know about the secret camps across the world that detain prisoners without trial. Torture? Pah! Liberal bias! Generals suggesting Rumsfield resign? Liberals again! Blatant lying of the administration? Lies! All of them!

In FACT, if it wasn't for the liberal bias in the media, 9/11 would have never happened and Osama bin Laden would be dead right now!
Well they were oblivious before it leaked because until then it was working. If they have not changed tactics since then they are just stupid.

Now that the bias was exposed it has become even less significant. But it is still evident and even came up last night when CNN started early to make Bush look stupid. But hey it was insignificant like making up a story about National Guard service.

Keeping terrorists detained in secret prisons to get information out of them to prevent furhter terrorist attacks is a bad thing? If they had to go on trial we would need to expose our intelligence gathering capabilities at the trial. Now the media would love that...they would not have to do anything illegal to report it then.

There were generals that supported Rumsfeld as well. Your point?? Besides they had axes to grind on him because he cut their pet programs and projects that were not needed do to the fact they were needed to fight the Cold War which is over.

And to this point there has been no proven lie from the administration...except for what the liberals want to believe in their conspiracy theories.
Old 05-16-2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kill_kill_kill
not one to let common sense get in the way of fear mongering population control, are we?
If you find something factually incorrect in my point please do feel free to bring it to my attention.

Sorry, but when it comes to the defense of this nation I am a take not prisoners kind of guy.



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