Standards are continually changing. Right now 200 is what you need to stay at the top of the pack, but lets not forget that horsepower isn't everything. What every turbocharged engine will have over Honda's 2.0L in the Type-R will have is torque, and lots of it. GM/Saturn/Dodge/Ford are all coming out with turbo'd compacts, and I think that Honda and the other Japanese manufacturers will have to follow suit. If not now, then within the next 2-3 years. Honda's turbocharged Civic Si would be pretty nice. Honda, being a big company, could probably use economies of scale to bring down the price of a turbo'd Si. In addition, to be competetive, they could probably make them limited in numbers and sell them at a loss. I'm pretty sure that Dodge sells Neon SRT-4s at a loss.

 

BTW, did they ever release the engine specs for the turbocharged Civic Si they showed at the SEMA show? Kinda curious whether they used the current Si's 160hp engine or used the the 200hp RSX engine. It would make a difference I assume. Also, if anyone knows the boost and torque numbers and could post it that would be cool.

 

i dont know the numbers on that one, but let me hypothesize for a second here. i figure if they released a turbo Si-t, it would probably be in the 240-260 hp range, although anything is possible. just imagine a civic with 290 stock horsepower! sell 1000 a year for like 25k, and suddenly the public will be seeing the current Si in a new light.

 

Okay copperhead :slap:

 

Well they're about halfway through the current Civic's lifecycle, so I doubt that anything so extreme will out soon. But I wouldn't rule out a turbocharged Type-R Civic or RSX/Integra for their next iteration. Simple fact is, the only way you can get significantly more horsepower and torque without increasing displacement is really IMA or turbocharging. I doubt IMA will be put into "economy" vehicles so soon, which leaves turbocharging as the only way Honda/Acura can compete with their next generation of compacts (if they really do want to remain at the forefront of the pack).

 

I think Honda will stay with Si/SiR for now.......... If there is anything that they want to do to help the sales or excites their potential customers............ they will have Mugen Si for them.... Maybe I wasn't too updated with this Mugen Si information.... But this car would be a nice fit to take on others like SRT or SVT....... Maybe, the interior was too fancy in the way. However, with the 2.0 supercharged engine, it will have tons of power to compete with everyone....... At same time, they could build up the brand image for Mugen as Honda's truely Sport/Racing manufacture like the AMGs & Ms. Do you guys think so? ^_^

 

you can buy mugen tuned new cars in japan like you can with nismo, trd, sti, and mazdaspeed...toyota has trd performance upgrades, sti and mazdaspeed vehicles are here, and nissan is bringing over some nismo products. honda is the only company that does not have its jdm factory tuner here and that may change b/e everyone else is bringing them to these shores

 

Honda needs to offer the Type R here. It would really transform the car.

 

After reading some reviews of the Civic Type R in some European car mags I'm not quite sure I'm as impressed any more. The Type R times, according to the mags, should be around 6.4-6.6, which is pretty much what we get in an Acura RSX Type-S. I'm not sure about the suspension upgrades, etc... but it looks as if the Civic Type R is essentially an RSX-R w/o the amenities. If they did bring the Civic Type R over I think they would definately have to bring the Integra Type R over as the RSX Type-R for Acura, which I hope they do.

 

Uhhh...what do you expect? It's a Civic versus an Integra. CTR has an LSD though, right?