I definatley agree that the Altima is outclassed when it comes to interior fit, finish, and materials. Nissan's stongpoint in my opinion has always been their engineering and not design/ergonomics. Meaning that while they're capable of producing some of the best performance cars out there (GT-R, Silvia, Z), they really struggle when it comes to creating a simple family sedan.

To me the new Altima only proves this point further, it's like they said to themselves while designing it, "Okay, instead of trying to focus on ergonomics and interior materials, which we're not very good at doing, let's instead focus on the mechanics and performance since those are our company's strengths." If that really was what Nissan was thinking then the surely accomplished their goal, no other family car in it's price range comes close to it in terms of performance.

But by taking this path they alienated a lot of their potential customer base, the majority of family car buyers aren't looking for performance, they're looking for comfort and ergonomics. Maybe they knew this, afterall isn't their new company slogan 'We create cars that are everything to some people, not something for everyone'. The Altima certainly fits that statement, for the few people out there who want great performance but for whatever reason need to buy a family sedan the Altima is the perfect choice. For everyone else looking for more traditional family car values there's the Accord and Camry.

I think what Nissan ended up doing probably worked out best for them. They really wouldn't have been able to seriously compete with the Camry or Accord by creating a similarly comfortable and quiet family car with a nice interior. This is because most Camry and Accord buyers don't even shop around, they're repeat buyers who have owned a Camry or Accord in the past and were satisfied with their car so that's what they puchase again.

exaclty ;)

94UhkorGuy and kazi, yall did get kind of carried away here. PM each other or talk on aim or something. You both turned your post in to personal ones that had nothing to do witht he Accord kick ass interior :fawk:

Why do you have to say that? The Camry vs Buick picture was a respectable counter-argument to your post. It was after that post with your "im sick and tired" statement that started it this trash. :slap:

These pictures are from this article but the website is really slow. There are quite a few more images you can check out, but these pictures really make the sedan look better. I really like how it looks in these 3 pics.

http://www.jrlweb.com/images/accords...ntside-900.jpg http://www.jrlweb.com/images/accords...arside-900.jpg http://www.jrlweb.com/images/Accord_Sedan_02.jpg

Dyno's comparing the current 2.3L 150hp VTEC i4 (grey) to the 2.4L 160hp i-VTEC i4 (black):

http://osx.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2002/07/...2948057_pv.jpg

Dyno's comparing the current 3.0L 200hp VTEC V6 (grey) to the 3.0L 240hp i-VTEC V6 (black):

http://osx.wieck.com/pv/WKA/2002/07/...2948039_pv.jpg

Can someone use the photoshop to change the color of the sedan to black please. I want to see how it looks in dark color. If possible, change it to gun metal color also. Thanks!!! ;)

I dont like that color Honda chose to show off the Accord in, a dark blue or red would have been much nicer.

According to the website, is v6 5spd auto the sportshift same as Acura TL?

It said, "5-speed auto in V6 different from 5-speed auto in 4-cylinder, V6 auto same as Acura 3.2 TL"

:thumbup:

Thank you!

I wonder how where they pulled all that torque from in the J30 though...And also, I was expecting the dyno of the K24 to be way more linear.