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Old 09-25-2003 | 10:58 PM
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I currently have Michelin mxv4's and after the loss of traction I just experienced they must go. :nervous: I lost all traction on the front tires at around 10-5mph while slowing to make a left turn in the middle of a semi-blind right curve. I knew from the time I bought the car last year the tires sucked balls on wet roads but was never this bad. :rant:

I'm thinking of getting some yokohama Avid H4's

What are you guys running, how do you like 'em? I'm basically looking for something that handles exceptional in dry and wet conditions. I'm also located up in the north east so they must be snow friendly.


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Old 09-26-2003 | 05:22 AM
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if this is on your stock wheels, then i'd say go with falken azenias. i've heard really good things about them. although i dont think they have the right sizes for 17's or 18's. i was actually planning on putting them on my stock wheels but i think they are a summer tire. and if they are j/ ignore my post haha.
Old 09-26-2003 | 06:25 AM
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Yeah, i'm all stock I'll check those out... Thanks
Old 09-26-2003 | 06:45 AM
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How much you want to spend?

I've had Dunlop SP Sport5000's, and they were around 90 bones.
They were on 15's, 195 50 r15

I've got Toyo Proxes Fz4's, 205-40 r17.

The toyos are the best lo pro for 17's that I've driven

I will continue to recommend the SP5000's unless I find a better tire for cheaper. Bridgestones' steel belted radials would be a second choice for me.
The Dunlops were Z rated and had no manufacturers warranty, but NTB offers road hazard, and they match any advertised price.
Old 09-26-2003 | 07:56 AM
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I was looking at the same tires but ended up getting the Yokohama Parada Spec-2's for my 17" Kosei's. So far I love them, but then again I don't have to drive them in the winter thanks to the stock wheels with good snows that go on in November.
Old 09-26-2003 | 10:00 AM
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Say no to Azenis for snow and heavy rain!!!!!! :nono::nono::nono::nono:

Speaking from personal experience since I've had these tires on my car for the past year, these are not what you are looking for as an "all-season" tire.

What makes them such a demanding tire for dry, track use, is the fact that there is a ton of tread and not much of anything else (water channels, grooves, etc.). The reason why they're recommended for dry weather use because they heat up quick, grip exceptionally well, and last you a decent while.

The trade-off is that with so much tread block, there's no water channels to allow water to escape from underneath the tire which can cause hydroplaning (I've done that before) and hardly any grooves (tread pattern) with which to grip the snow and gain traction (been there too).

What helps the tire perform in dry weather (heat buildup, therefore a sticky tire) cannot happen in cold or wet weather so the tire is useless and can possibly send you into an accident.

If you're looking for tires that can handle the snow, look for some with the designations M+S, M/S, M&S, or MS. This indicates that these pass RMA (Rubber Manufacturers Association) guidelines for Mud and Snow tires.
Old 09-26-2003 | 12:15 PM
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You're not going to get a true performance tire that is also an all-season tire. Keep in mind that snow traction ability is ultimately going to limit your dry traction and to a lesser degree your wet traction.

That said, the Dunlop SP5000 will keep you safe in the snow while still giving you above average performance in non-winter conditions.

The Toyo FZ4 is also not bad when compared to the SP5000, it gets a bit of a bad rep because people generally don't realize it's an all season tire. Compared to real performance tires it's not very good but when looked at as an all season tire it's pretty decent. Its snow traction is not as good as the Dunlop.

So for you I'd recommend the SP5000 in 205/50-15.
Old 09-28-2003 | 10:05 AM
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If you are concerned about snow, get some blizzaks on some steel wheels for winter and a summer tire for the rest of the year. For you poor souls that have to be concerned with freezing cold I feel pity. Tires are compromises, if it handles one thing well, it often suffers in another. You need to decide for yourself, but the best all season tire I have driven on is the SP 5000. I prefer yokohama tires in general, but have never tried Toyos
Old 09-28-2003 | 12:31 PM
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Falken Azenis are great in the dry but suck in the rain. not good for daily driver.

Kuhmos are great in both conditions are cheap

I am going to get the New Bridgestone Potenza RE750's this week. has gotten great ratings in wet and dry in tire rack.
i need better than kuhmos now since traction is harder with turbo

Updated Turbo Prelude Pics
Old 09-29-2003 | 03:31 PM
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Originally posted by boostlee
Falken Azenis are great in the dry but suck in the rain. not good for daily driver.

Kuhmos are great in both conditions are cheap

I am going to get the New Bridgestone Potenza RE750's this week. has gotten great ratings in wet and dry in tire rack.
i need better than kuhmos now since traction is harder with turbo

Updated Turbo Prelude Pics
didn't the Yokohama AVS ES 100 beat it in one of tireracks comparisons?



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