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Old 03-22-2007 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bnuk
traction T/As are very good in snow.
There are MUCH better tires out there for about the same money or less. But which one, depends on the tire size.

In 14" sizes for Integras (185/65-14 or 195/60-14), if you're looking for a really good all-season in those 14" sizes, you're MUCH better off with the Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position, which is available in 195/60-14. The RE960AS is Bridgestone's top-of-the-line all-season tire, similar to the BFG g-Force T/A KDWS all-season (BFG's top-of-the-line), which is only available in 16" and larger sizes. The RE960AS costs about the same price as the Traction T/A ($69 for the RE960AS, vs $64-65 for the BFG), but it's better in every way - snow and cold, as well as warmer weather. So if you need an all-season for 14" wheels, go with the Bridgestone RE960AS.



In 15" sizes, the Traction T/A is available in 195/55-15 for Integras ($87), but not in the often-used alternative size of 205/50-15 for Integras. If you're looking for a really good all-season in either of these 15" sizes, you're MUCH better off with the Kumho Ecsta ASX. The ASX is Kumho's top-of-the-line all-season tire, similar to the KDWS and RE960AS, which are not available in these sizes. The ASX is a lot less money ($64 for 195/55-15, $59 for 205/50-15) and it's better than the Traction T/A in every way - snow and cold, as well as warmer weather. So if you need an all-season for 15" wheels, go with the Kumho Ecsta ASX.



EDIT - Corrected size availability info, removed references to Civics (since this is an Integra forum).

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Old 03-22-2007 | 09:11 AM
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^ that is wrong. the traction T/A is sold in the right size for integra's.

what civcs have 205/50s?

edit: looking on tire rack, there are different traction T/As the the only one we are talking about is traction T/A V.

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Old 03-22-2007 | 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
That's kind of goofy, just because the NeoGen is an all-season tire and the g-Force Sport is a summer tire. I would think that any decent tire rep would recommend only all-seasons to people who need to use the same tires on snow as in moderate to warm temperatures, and only summer tires to people who never need to use the tires in snow. They're not good substitutes for each other.
Without writing a 10 page book about the situation I was looking for a performance all season tire. I dont drive the car in the snow but wanted an all season tire in an emergency situation but not really needed. The rep did ask me do I live in an area where there is alot of snow but I told him it didn't matter because I have other vehicles that I drive in those condition.
Old 03-22-2007 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by bnuk
^ that is wrong. the traction T/A is sold in the right size for integra's.
You are correct. I have edited my post. Sorry for the error.

Originally Posted by bnuk
what civcs have 205/50s?
The '97-00 Civic, and some '96 models, use the same sizes as Integras (185/65-14 or 195/55-15), for which 205/50-15 is an alternate size that works. But since this is an Integra forum, I removed the references to Civics.

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edit: looking on tire rack, there are different traction T/As the the only one we are talking about is traction T/A V.
That depends on the size of the wheels, which depends on the Integra model and year. Some Integras were sold with 14" wheels (for which the Traction T/A H is available), while others were sold with 15" wheels (for which the Traction T/A V is available).
Old 03-23-2007 | 06:58 AM
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Originally Posted by 2001TEGGSR
Falken Azenis in 205/50/15 for $73 a peice at vulcan tire. I was quoted $85 at discount tire just to mount and balance these. With the higher cost and low tread wear rating considered, I opted for BF Goodrich G Force instead. I couldn't be happier! They grip much better than the OEM XGT4's.

http://www.vulcantire.com/azenis_rt615_t.htm
Nice, everyone seems to like the bfg gforce and they're right in my price range. When I get my rim fixed next week im gonna pick up a set of these.

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Old 03-23-2007 | 08:48 AM
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I have Nitto NT450's and proud of it!!! They had overall good customer reviews...I will say though, I do notice a loss of grip when it occasionally rains here in CA. Other than that they serve their purpose to my need with regards to givign my car the "shoes" that meet the pavement. I don't drive like a maniac, except for the occasional sharp turn through a yellow light. Say what you will, they have done good for me.
Old 03-23-2007 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by v6_accord_jerz
Nice, everyone seems to like the bfg gforce
No, they don't. I'm betting it's only people who haven't tried other tires, and don't know how good some of the other brands are.

First of all, BFG makes a lot of tires with the g-Force name, everything from track tires, to pretty good summer tires, to crappy summer tires, to all-season tires. Saying "BFG g-Force" is like saying "Bridgestone Potenza" or "Kumho Ecsta" or "Goodyear Eagle". There are so many tires that carry that name, that it's meaningless.

You can do MUCH better for the money than BFG tires. For example:

BFG g-Force T/A KD - overpriced, supersticky, fast-wearing summer street tire. The Falken Azenis RT-615 does everything better, for about half the price.

BFG g-Force T/A KDW - overpriced, good performing summer street tire. The Goodyear F1 GS-D3 does everything better for the same price. The Kumho SPT and Yokohama ES100 offer the same performance as the KDW for half the price.

BFG g-Force Sport - crappy performing summer street tire. The Kumho SPT and Yokohama ES100 offer MUCH better performance for the same price.

BFG g-Force T/A KDWS - overpriced, good performing all-season tire. The Kumho Ecsta ASX offers the same performance for half the price.

BFG Traction T/A - crappy performing all-season tire. The Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position and Kumho Ecsta ASX offer MUCH better performance for the same price.

The one thing BFG does well is marketing. They spend a fortune on advertising and on sales incentives for their dealers. It's no wonder that dealers often push their tires, even though they're generally worse deals than other brands.

But hey, it's your car and your money. If you want to spend more than you have to for a given level of performance, you're welcome to do so.

Disclaimer: I don't work for BFG or any other tire manufacturer or dealer, and I don't have any financial interest in what tires you buy. You can buy whichever tires you want. I have driven on these tires and I think it's silly to pay more money than you need to for a given level of performance.

Originally Posted by centerforce99
I have Nitto NT450's and proud of it!!!
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Say what you will, they have done good for me.
IMHO, the question is not whether a given tire is "good enough". The question is whether you can do better. Any time you can get better performance for the same money or less, it would be foolish not to do so. In your case, even if you stick to Nitto (you can do better, but even if you stick to Nitto), you would get MUCH better performance (in rain and on dry pavement) from their summer tires (like the NT555) than from their crappy NT450 all-seasons (unless you're driving on snow in Orange County CA ).

If you try the tires I'm recommending, you'll find that they're better than the tires you have been settling for up till now, or they're just as good but for a lot less money.

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Old 03-23-2007 | 09:18 AM
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The king of tires has spoken.
Old 03-23-2007 | 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by redGSRguy
The king of tires has spoken.
No shit, nsxtasy knows tires.

I've had BFG in the past, I believe they were euro t/a's at the time. No complaints. I felt the same about those as I do the Nitto's.

On the other hand, I just slapped some BFG's my wife's Escape and those are doing great.

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Old 03-23-2007 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nsxtasy
BFG g-Force Sport - crappy performing summer street tire. The Kumho SPT and Yokohama ES100 offer MUCH better performance for the same price.
Well it seems like you know alot more about tires than I do and I don't know much lol.

I've had Kumho Ecsta's before and they were ok but if the SPT are better then i'll take your word for it. I'll pick up a set of these for my summer set up.

While on the tire topic. I currently have 215/40R16 tires on my American Racing type sr (series 86) wheels 16".

Now before you mentioned for the stock 15" wheel, to get the 205/50-15 assuming that's the max? What i'm looking to get is a lil wider and low profile sorta like what I have now and 40 is pretty low. Getting 225/45R16 or even what I have now 215/40R16 should do me good with the Kumho Ecsta SPT right?

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