Drifting
#14
I was feelin crazy coming home from partying on saturday night and started hittin up my loop (a one way two-lane circle track in a futuree devel with no houses or curbs yet) i was doin about 90 the whole way and it was maybe .4 mi around whenever i hit a hill the thing would slide out at 45 degrees, and every once in a while it would spin out, though i should stipulate that i do this on a basically closed road, and my integra is a toy, not a daily driver, so i don't wanna hear about wear but my girlfriend loved it, especially spinning out.
#15
You can't really "drift" in a FF car (the FR guys call it @zz-draggin which is pretty accurate) but all of the above will get your tail loose.
You can't power-on oversteer in FF so it's pretty tough to suddenly decide to kick out your rear in the middle of a turn. With an aggressive rear end I can oversteer on entry in a turn...but you really need the proper drivetrain to be a tr00 driftking. h:
I would also highly advise AGAINST drifting on public roads. I was sitting at a left-hand turn signal at a stoplight and some idiot almost side-swiped me going sideways.
Shingo
You can't power-on oversteer in FF so it's pretty tough to suddenly decide to kick out your rear in the middle of a turn. With an aggressive rear end I can oversteer on entry in a turn...but you really need the proper drivetrain to be a tr00 driftking. h:
I would also highly advise AGAINST drifting on public roads. I was sitting at a left-hand turn signal at a stoplight and some idiot almost side-swiped me going sideways.
Shingo
#16
"Drifting" in the sense of driving like a retard/thrashing your car is a mis-translation of a Japanese pastime of hanging the ass end of a car out to look cool. The actual term "drift" is when the slip angle of all 4 tires is the same a.k.a. neutralsteer. Of course now this begs an explanation.
Slip angle - the difference between the direction a tire is pointed and the direction the car is traveling.
Understeer - the slip angle of the front tires is greater than the rear tires; also called "pushing."
Oversteer - the slip angle of the rear tires is greater than the front tires; also called "hanging the ass end out."
Neutralsteer - all four tires are sliding at the same slip angle; a true "drift" and also the fastest way through a corner (assuming you're on a non-limited-traction surface like a paved road).
You can get any car to understeer, oversteer or neutralsteer. It's easier to get a FWD car to understeer because power can be used to break the front tires loose and increase their slip angle. Oversteer is easier to get in a RWD car for the same reason. AWD cars don't necessarily neutralsteer because they're not always splitting power 50/50 front-rear and because the amount of weight and stiffness of suspension is not generally tuned to encourage neutralsteer.
For a more detailed explanation (which will also make you much much smarter ) check out http://www.turnfast.com/tech_handling/handling.lasso and at the very least read the sections on tire traction and weight transfer.
OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.
Slip angle - the difference between the direction a tire is pointed and the direction the car is traveling.
Understeer - the slip angle of the front tires is greater than the rear tires; also called "pushing."
Oversteer - the slip angle of the rear tires is greater than the front tires; also called "hanging the ass end out."
Neutralsteer - all four tires are sliding at the same slip angle; a true "drift" and also the fastest way through a corner (assuming you're on a non-limited-traction surface like a paved road).
You can get any car to understeer, oversteer or neutralsteer. It's easier to get a FWD car to understeer because power can be used to break the front tires loose and increase their slip angle. Oversteer is easier to get in a RWD car for the same reason. AWD cars don't necessarily neutralsteer because they're not always splitting power 50/50 front-rear and because the amount of weight and stiffness of suspension is not generally tuned to encourage neutralsteer.
For a more detailed explanation (which will also make you much much smarter ) check out http://www.turnfast.com/tech_handling/handling.lasso and at the very least read the sections on tire traction and weight transfer.
OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.
#19