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Old 09-24-2002 | 03:21 PM
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You can't drift in a FWD, that's RWD territory. Your best is like everyone says, snow, water or dirt/sand. But if you worry so much, why do you want to do it?
Old 09-24-2002 | 04:25 PM
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yeah, zx3's are gay. and slow.

there's no way around that.
Old 09-24-2002 | 04:39 PM
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if you drift, don't worry about the car cause you are ****ing up the car and if you crash it your focked.
Old 09-25-2002 | 08:10 PM
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I was feelin crazy coming home from partying on saturday night and started hittin up my loop (a one way two-lane circle track in a futuree devel with no houses or curbs yet) i was doin about 90 the whole way and it was maybe .4 mi around whenever i hit a hill the thing would slide out at 45 degrees, and every once in a while it would spin out, though i should stipulate that i do this on a basically closed road, and my integra is a toy, not a daily driver, so i don't wanna hear about wear but my girlfriend loved it, especially spinning out.
Old 09-25-2002 | 11:07 PM
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You can't really "drift" in a FF car (the FR guys call it @zz-draggin which is pretty accurate) but all of the above will get your tail loose.

You can't power-on oversteer in FF so it's pretty tough to suddenly decide to kick out your rear in the middle of a turn. With an aggressive rear end I can oversteer on entry in a turn...but you really need the proper drivetrain to be a tr00 driftking. h:

I would also highly advise AGAINST drifting on public roads. I was sitting at a left-hand turn signal at a stoplight and some idiot almost side-swiped me going sideways.

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Old 09-26-2002 | 08:03 AM
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"Drifting" in the sense of driving like a retard/thrashing your car is a mis-translation of a Japanese pastime of hanging the ass end of a car out to look cool. The actual term "drift" is when the slip angle of all 4 tires is the same a.k.a. neutralsteer. Of course now this begs an explanation.

Slip angle - the difference between the direction a tire is pointed and the direction the car is traveling.

Understeer - the slip angle of the front tires is greater than the rear tires; also called "pushing."

Oversteer - the slip angle of the rear tires is greater than the front tires; also called "hanging the ass end out."

Neutralsteer - all four tires are sliding at the same slip angle; a true "drift" and also the fastest way through a corner (assuming you're on a non-limited-traction surface like a paved road).

You can get any car to understeer, oversteer or neutralsteer. It's easier to get a FWD car to understeer because power can be used to break the front tires loose and increase their slip angle. Oversteer is easier to get in a RWD car for the same reason. AWD cars don't necessarily neutralsteer because they're not always splitting power 50/50 front-rear and because the amount of weight and stiffness of suspension is not generally tuned to encourage neutralsteer.

For a more detailed explanation (which will also make you much much smarter ) check out http://www.turnfast.com/tech_handling/handling.lasso and at the very least read the sections on tire traction and weight transfer.

OK, I'll get off my soapbox now.
Old 09-26-2002 | 09:13 AM
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Getting the ass end to swing out a decent amount on a turn is coo :thumbup: Ahh how I love slight oversteer.
Old 09-26-2002 | 09:14 AM
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get a thick rear swaybar, it'll make it a lot easier
Old 09-26-2002 | 09:23 AM
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or do it on sand...
on your old tires

its fun!


check me out :P
Old 09-26-2002 | 12:59 PM
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i thought i knew how to drift in my corrolla, but when i bought the WRX, i found out the real thing. it's like a wet dream..



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