I replaced my valve seals and installed some ITR valve springs today, but it went horribly wrong for some reason. I go to start it after I am done and it makes a horrendous noise and then shuts off. I check compression in all cylinders and cylinder 2 is at 0 psi. Then I check out the valve springs and this is what I find on the intake side:




I guess the valve spring had malfunctioned and it went down, but never came back up, hit the piston and then bent into that position. When I compressed the cylinder with air, cylinder 2 was at TDC (valves should have been closed) and air was shooting back out at me through cylinder 4 since that intake valve was open.

The head was pulled off and this is what I found:



I had to pull the valve out with a claw hammer since it was pretty bent. It isn't noticable unless you look up close, but it is definitely bent:



Not to mention, I lost two valve keepers somewhere in the head, so tomorrow I am going to blast it with air to see if they can be found in the head somewhere. Otherwise, I am going to have to drain and strain the oil to see if they come out of the oil pan. Here is what my engine bay looks like as we speak:



It could be done and stuff tonight, but I am too tired to deal with it right now. Hopefully sleep will give me some more energy to get everything back together and ready for the commute to work on Monday.

 

damn, that sucks man. I'm sure you'll get it all worked out tomorrow though. Hopefully you can get a hold of whatever parts you might need, it being sunday and all. :a:

 

I already got a new valve and headgasket, so I am not too worried about getting it back together. It is just energy I lack at this point.

They didn't have any GSR intake valves, so I got a Type R one instead. A little weight reduction.

 

Fawk dude, that sucks. Good intention gone haywire. Did you really have to change out the springs and seals? I remember once I tried to do a valve adjustment on my 67 VW when I was in highschool, when I turned it on the car was shaking like it was having a heart attack. Then I was like fuck man, it really didn't even need it, I decided to do it just because. I had to ph. a friend to cme help me fix it, but man for a second I wished I'd just left it alone. Good luck man, hope it all works out.

P.S. Any chance you can borrow a car to go to work in case you decide to send the head off for a p&p? Since the head is off...

 

haha shoulda bought my headgasket off me... lol i still have that thing laying around... i woulda tossed it to ya for like $20 lol.... oh well... that sucks so bad, i don't know how i drove 100 miles w/ a loose timing belt and you managed to bend a valve w/ just starting it up.... luck of the draw i guess. anyway.. goodluck w/ the rest of your stuff... sucks we're not gunna see you down at the eibach meet... like i said on the phone... gimme a call if your lookin for another wrench, im always down

 

that sucks bro, it will all work out in the end

 

The seals had to be done since I was spewing shit out of my exhaust AGAIN. I decided to pick up some ITR springs to go with my CTR cams since they were only $100 shipped.

I can borrow a car, but I have been spending too much money lately and this project set me back another $200 with the springs, keepers, head gasket, and valve to be spending another few hundred for a relatively useless p&p. Plus the head is junk...I have two sheared off cam holder bolts and the valve guides need to be replaced.

Yeah, I remembered that you had that headgasket after I bought it from Acura for $60. I will probably need one in the future since I have gone through 4 of them in the last two years.

Be careful with the Eibach meet. Cops are getting smart and busting those. Cars are being impounded and such, so be sketchy or take a car that won't get you busted.

 

[QUOTE=Däs Schmoo]The seals had to be done since I was spewing shit out of my exhaust AGAIN. I decided to pick up some ITR springs to go with my CTR cams since they were only $100 shipped.

I can borrow a car, but I have been spending too much money lately and this project set me back another $200 with the springs, keepers, head gasket, and valve to be spending another few hundred for a relatively useless p&p. Plus the head is junk...I have two sheared off cam holder bolts and the valve guides need to be replaced.

Why am I thinking a P&P would be good for your set-up? Is this upgrade over rated? I've always though that most useful gains are made from a good head, w/good flow and all the fixings along w/a reinforced block. But like you said too if the head is crap, you don't want to throw anymore money into than you have to. So yeah, good luck bro, hope you don't have any more probs.

 

[QUOTE=centerforce99]The head is back on and the car runs. My question is are ITR valve springs supposed to be a decent amount louder than GSR valve springs? I adjusted the valve lash (which was so off, it wasn't funny) and it still has an annoying tick like an old POS Mercedes diesel. It idles great and drives well, but it is annoying unless it is normal.

There are really 4 things it can do:
A) Get louder because something is fucked in the head
B) Stay the same and bug me to death
C) Explode while driving, dropping a valve, etc.
D) Get quieter.

If it is A or C, I am going to pick up another head and transfer the valve springs and cams over. Otherwise, I will drive it until then.

A port and polish would probably pick up a few hp, but it isn't a cheap procedure and I don't really want to dip any more into my bank account for a head that could be a ticking time bomb.

 

I would not worry too much about the valve springs and the noise. I am pretty confident that you did everything right so it cannot be messed up. The noice your hearing is most likely due to 1 of 3 things. They are like way newer than what you had in there so they may need to break in a little. Or two, Type R springs are wound just a bit in difference for the higher lift cams they support and this is the noise that it yields. Or 3 you may be hearing the valves not the springs, in case they were not adjuested correctly, but you've done that a million times over so I doubt it is 3, but just in case...