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Old 05-06-2004 | 03:10 PM
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I have not done any research on heavy front or rear. I just assumed heavy front. I would think that as a beginner I would have an easier time with under steer. I have skunk2 camber kit and stock ITR roll bar. What would you recommend in terms of spring rates if I were running on the street and NASA HPDE? Should I get the spoon suspension? I can get a decent deal with spoon.

I really appreciate all your help.
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I would think that as a beginner
Stock suspension then.... its completely competent on track especially for a novice.
Old 05-06-2004 | 04:06 PM
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I would stay stock only i bought the car used and it has old tokico's that suck and the ride hight and camber are way out. ride hight is 1/2 lower on the driver side without me in it and i'm 6'2" 185. camber is 1.5 deg passenger and 2.1 driver again without me in it.
Old 05-06-2004 | 04:42 PM
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Find a low mileage used ITR stock suspension.

You wont be dissapointed in it. I've got a set of track-valved Konis on the way, and thats all I'll be doing for a while. The suspension is comfortable for driving to the track on, and it just flat out kicks ass on track. Its balanced, and you can easily induce oversteer with a bit of trail braking or trailing throttle.
Old 05-06-2004 | 04:46 PM
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LOL... You're scaring me.

RJ's right that your money's probably better spent on driving schools than making changes before you know what you're doing; however, you seem determined and/or somebody's already messed with the car.

(1)Your price on the Spoon suspension is a good one. I'd be tempted, but please remember that the Spoon suspension is a part of an overall racing package, and you're not buying the whole package. After you do a few schools, you're going to know what we mean about wanting to make other changes. If you know you'll probably want to spend more money fairly soon and you can handle that, go ahead.

(2)Think about looking for some OEM ITR springs and Bilsteins or Koni Yellows, or KYB's even. RJ is right, you can have a hell of a lot of fun learning a stock ITR before you really feel the need to make changes. If you're a newer driver, there's more to fix in your head than there is to fix in the car.

(3)Personally, I have revalved Koni Yellows and Ground Control springs, 400# front and 500# rear. This has served me well for a while, and only toward the end of last season was I beginning to think I was going to move the 500's to the front and get heavier springs in the rear. Since the rebuild is so late, however, I'll probably go another season w/these. LOL... But keep your eyes open for blue tyre smoke in Rollercoaster.

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Old 05-06-2004 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by George Knighton
But keep your eyes open for blue tyre smoke in Rollercoaster.
Haha... swap the springs! We can do it at the track if you want
Old 05-06-2004 | 07:44 PM
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Thanks for all the info guys. the springs were going to be the first in a longer line of perfomance parts. I've been reading the honda builders handbook vol.1 & 2. and i can see how the spoon sports might be overkill. I just want to buy the right part the first time. I wouldn't mind buying a set of stock springs and calling it good but then i wouldn't want to find out that i needed something stiffer, more adjustable...etc.
What would you guys say is essential parts to get before i go racing the (car is stock). besides my suspension and brake pads i would have taken it out allready.
Thanks again.
Old 05-07-2004 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by mark
I just want to buy the right part the first time.
Unfortunately if your long term goal is to race, this doesnt exist.

I wouldn't mind buying a set of stock springs and calling it good but then i wouldn't want to find out that i needed something stiffer, more adjustable...etc.
You have to be able to drive before you can utilize something stiffer or more adjustable, which is why the stock suspension is such a good starting point. Buying a stiff suspension kit and setting it up (which will be hard, because as a novice you wont really know what the car is doing) will make it harder to learn.

What would you guys say is essential parts to get before i go racing the (car is stock). besides my suspension and brake pads i would have taken it out allready.
Just add brake pads/fluid and tires and get to the track. You wont be racing right away.
Old 05-07-2004 | 01:25 PM
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will do thanks.
Old 05-09-2004 | 04:00 PM
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http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=859590

Bilsteins for sale, if you're interested.


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