Tuning Wars (Power FC vs Hondata S200)
05-06-2003 | 07:52 AM
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Trey,
Any chance of getting Steve's tuning of your car included in the base maps Hondata offers?!? Since the base maps aren't that good for most of us and since your car has the typical mods most ITR and hybrid owners have, it would seem to me this exercise could really benefit not only you, but also many other ITR and hybrid owners as well.
IMO that's the biggest problem with Hondata. It's not the cost of their hardware, but the dyno time, finding someone skilled to tune it, and the shear hassle of organizing it. A few hundred $ mod becomes much more expensive and difficult because their isn't a good base map for the ITR already offered. If there was a good base map, many of us could run it 'as is' with no tuning. I personally would buy a S200 system immediately if it was offered with a good base map.
Just throwing out an idea here, since you've got a good relationship with Hondata and are getting your car tuned by one of the best Honda tuners.
Any chance of getting Steve's tuning of your car included in the base maps Hondata offers?!? Since the base maps aren't that good for most of us and since your car has the typical mods most ITR and hybrid owners have, it would seem to me this exercise could really benefit not only you, but also many other ITR and hybrid owners as well.
IMO that's the biggest problem with Hondata. It's not the cost of their hardware, but the dyno time, finding someone skilled to tune it, and the shear hassle of organizing it. A few hundred $ mod becomes much more expensive and difficult because their isn't a good base map for the ITR already offered. If there was a good base map, many of us could run it 'as is' with no tuning. I personally would buy a S200 system immediately if it was offered with a good base map.
Just throwing out an idea here, since you've got a good relationship with Hondata and are getting your car tuned by one of the best Honda tuners.
Originally Posted by Trey
Here is the low down to this point.
I currently own a Power FC with Datalogit (base map changing interface hardware/software). Hondata has graciously supplied me an S200 System and P28 ECU.
I have become fairly familiar with the Power FC and tuning with it. That said there is one PFC guru in the east. Jack Harris of P1 Auto is a ninja tuner with the Power FC and has the dyno. The man with the Hondata skills to rival jack and the power FC is Steve Sakai from sgt-racing. I figured what better way to show the potential of the 2 systems other than to put in the Stock ECU, get a base run and then turn the respective guru loose with their system. Both parties seem to be receptive to the idea so we are hammering out the last few details.
I will post on ITRCA all our Findings. Due to Hondata's generosity all things being close to equal I will continue to run the Hondata after the tests. Matt at hondata was an invaluable part of Expo3 and has been a good freind since I met him at Expo1
Look for more info to come out soon, after we set a date. We are waiting on a few other parts as well. Time Frame I hope will be Mid to Late May but nothing is close to firm yet.
Thoughts or Input as to this test?
Trey
I currently own a Power FC with Datalogit (base map changing interface hardware/software). Hondata has graciously supplied me an S200 System and P28 ECU.
I have become fairly familiar with the Power FC and tuning with it. That said there is one PFC guru in the east. Jack Harris of P1 Auto is a ninja tuner with the Power FC and has the dyno. The man with the Hondata skills to rival jack and the power FC is Steve Sakai from sgt-racing. I figured what better way to show the potential of the 2 systems other than to put in the Stock ECU, get a base run and then turn the respective guru loose with their system. Both parties seem to be receptive to the idea so we are hammering out the last few details.
I will post on ITRCA all our Findings. Due to Hondata's generosity all things being close to equal I will continue to run the Hondata after the tests. Matt at hondata was an invaluable part of Expo3 and has been a good freind since I met him at Expo1
Look for more info to come out soon, after we set a date. We are waiting on a few other parts as well. Time Frame I hope will be Mid to Late May but nothing is close to firm yet.
Thoughts or Input as to this test?
Trey