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Old 02-05-2004 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by integrx
go for a custom t25 turbo kit setup. It'll be very nice for street performance. How often are you going to spray n2o on the street?
That has to be the dumbest question, that I have ever heard asked online.

The power is there when you need it to be, not when you don't.

It will cost you about a grand to get a nice nitrous setup, and the fuel delivery all set and done.

You can either spray yourself into the 14's, or spend just as much on some crappy springs, and a 200 dollar intake that will do next to nothing on your LS.
Old 02-05-2004 | 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by stockhonda
That has to be the dumbest question, that I have ever heard asked online.

The power is there when you need it to be, not when you don't.

It will cost you about a grand to get a nice nitrous setup, and the fuel delivery all set and done.

You can either spray yourself into the 14's, or spend just as much on some crappy springs, and a 200 dollar intake that will do next to nothing on your LS.
Instead of being condescending you could have read the original post. He specifically said:
Originally Posted by androoloo
I don't plan to take this to the track, or time a 1/4 mile.
Now that you have read that you should now understand why your post was inappropriate. Please leave the attitude behind the next time you choose to voice your opinion.
Old 02-06-2004 | 03:23 AM
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I have an automatic 1997 LS (100k). I have read many of the threads here and I was looking for some advice for street performance.
Now that YOU have read more carefully, I ask that you retract your statement.
Also...
First of all the car is an automatic so even with a turbo it's not going to get much quicker.
I've got a friend going 13's with a stock automatic honda tranny, and only 7 psi on a sohc. There is potential wherever there is interest/popularity in the car modifying business, and just because it's automatic, doesn't mean that it can't be made quick. Sure there's a level to where the transmision just won't be able to handle the power, but that level of power will not come after a bolton turbo kit, or from a nitrous setup. Automatic transmissions just make it easier to brakeboost off the line
Mr Fatbooty, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, i'm not trying to come off with an attitude, I'm just voicing my opinion. I'm trying to stop the spread of bullshit information you guys are feeding this kid that his car has no potential as it sits.

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Old 02-06-2004 | 05:48 AM
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So for suspension, how does this sound for just street driving performance?

KYB AGX shocks (or should I get the KYB GR-2 if I am not going to play with my shocks all that much?)

with H&R OE Spring Set (I am not looking to have problems with the car scraping the ground - or is that usually the result of someone setting their suspension up wrong?) I just want slight lowering to improve performance but still drive on street roads

also, should I make sure I have good tires before the suspension or upgrade the suspension and tires at the same time?

Thanks again for all your opinions.
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Originally Posted by stockhonda
Now that YOU have read more carefully, I ask that you retract your statement.
Also...

I've got a friend going 13's with a stock automatic honda tranny, and only 7 psi on a sohc. There is potential wherever there is interest/popularity in the car modifying business, and just because it's automatic, doesn't mean that it can't be made quick. Sure there's a level to where the transmision just won't be able to handle the power, but that level of power will not come after a bolton turbo kit, or from a nitrous setup. Automatic transmissions just make it easier to brakeboost off the line
Mr Fatbooty, I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings, i'm not trying to come off with an attitude, I'm just voicing my opinion. I'm trying to stop the spread of bullshit information you guys are feeding this kid that his car has no potential as it sits.
The guy is concerned with how his car drives on the street, not quarter mile times. While you may equate the term "street performance" with quarter mile times, he clarified exactly what he meant which is he is NOT concerned with quarter mile times.

Part of my job as a moderator of this forum is to keep discussion on a respectful level. You weren't doing that and I pointed it out. No feelings were hurt. You are perfectly free to voice your opinion, just do so in a more constructive manner. You may not have intended to come off with an attitude but that is how it is read by myself and others. Please be more cogniscent of how your words will be interpreted. If you wish to discuss this further, contact me via PM or email so this thread does not get hijacked any more.
Old 02-06-2004 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by androoloo
So for suspension, how does this sound for just street driving performance?

KYB AGX shocks (or should I get the KYB GR-2 if I am not going to play with my shocks all that much?)

with H&R OE Spring Set (I am not looking to have problems with the car scraping the ground - or is that usually the result of someone setting their suspension up wrong?) I just want slight lowering to improve performance but still drive on street roads

also, should I make sure I have good tires before the suspension or upgrade the suspension and tires at the same time?

Thanks again for all your opinions.
Tires should be the first thing you upgrade. If you can only afford one thing, get some nice sticky tires. If you can afford both the suspension and the tires then get both.

KYB GR2 shocks aren't really much of an upgrade over stock. They're more of a replacement than anything else. The AGX is an actual performance shock. If you don't plan on adjusting the shocks but want an actual upgrade then you should also look at Koni Reds (a.k.a. Koni Special).

H&R OE Sport springs are really pretty conservative as well and not a hugely noticeable improvement over stock. The next step down, literally, is the Eibach Prokit. It's a more lowering and a stiffer spring than the OE Sport but not quite as aggressive as the H&R Sport.

As for tires, they're still the first thing you should look into. Which tire you go with depends on how long you want them to last, how much grip you want, and a few other factors. Whether or not you plan to use them in snow is also a consideration.
Old 02-06-2004 | 10:00 AM
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ok, i'm not going to recommend any brands, but don't lower it over an inch and a half, you'll scrape. also, what size wheels do you have? I had the 98 ls wheels, now i have the 97 gsr wheels. ls wheels are 14in, the gsr's are 15 inch. at first i would scrape if i wasnt careful(with the ls wheels), now that i have the 15in gsr wheels, i dont have to be careful. Now that i've made room, with my temporary 15's, i can get my front lip and skirts :naughty: as for the tires, i'm very happy with my dunlops, they really grip the road and are pretty inexpensive. no matter how hard i try, i can't get them to squeel. they just skip a few times and then you're off. I enjoy my car very much on the street. i have the aem cai, and then its lowered. it sounds nice, but i am about to buy an itr exhaust and cat(getting ready for the header). All of these are nice mods, you get better performance, but its not too loud.
Old 02-06-2004 | 10:48 AM
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Thanks again for all the responses.

So do you guys/gals have any advice on tires/wheels?

I currently have the stock 14" steel wheels with some Eagle HPs on them. Before you yell at me, the car was GIVEN to me so the car payments are good.

I have only really looked around online for upgrades. I have been thinking of upgrading to 16" wheels and summer performance tires. Tell me what you think of these packages:

http://www.tires-n-parts.com/package...motegi_pd.html

With the tiny research I have done, it looks like the tires in that package is not great, and neither is the price. I have only really been getting info from tirerack reviews and this website reviews (please let me know if you know of any other good review sites):

http://www.carreview.com/defaultcrx.aspx

Or are there any tires or wheels that you would recommend that I avoid?

I think koni reds & eibach pro kit sound good for improved suspension. The only thing I though of driving in Chicago recently is that would it be worth getting adjustable shocks if I plan on putting snow tires on my old wheels and raising the car when it snows?

Also, are there any details I am forgetting for suspension work? Are front/rear strut bars important?

Thanks again for all the help.
Old 02-06-2004 | 01:26 PM
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Motegi wheels are kind of, eh, not so great. Also the tires you get in those combo packs are pretty crappy. The best two places to look are www.tirerack.com and www.discounttiredirect.com. For a reasonably priced wheel/tire combo that is nice and light weight and will stick pretty well, I would suggest the Enkei RS5 and Yokohama AVS ES100 in 205/45-16 size. Obviously that's just an example.

Adjustable shocks let you change their firmness, not the ride height. Koni Yellows do have a limited height adjustable provision but that's not what is generally meant by adjustable shocks.

Strut bars are not hugely important but they will make the car feel more solid. A front bar can make a pretty noticeable improvement; Neuspeed is generally accepted as the way to go.
Old 02-06-2004 | 01:54 PM
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The advice you've been given thus far has been excellent.

I'm taking a similar route with my car, not wanting dominating track performance, but making it more fun on the street. A decent suspension and wheel/tire setup will not only perform well with your integra, but it'll help its appearance as well. These will probably be more noticable than any engine mods.


As far as engine mods are concerned, your standard boltons will help with that extra pep. I would also recommend a good set of mild cams, as they make a difference in the overall behavior and power of the car (may be different for 'tegs). I wouldn't go too aggressive, since you wont want a crappy idle, and you'll want to pass emmissions.


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