ok. i have a problem. my dad and i just swapped an integra r engine in my civic. i got some extra money and i wanted to get some cams for it. but from what ive been hearing around my town is that its a waste of time to do stuff like that to a type r engine. is that tru? i mean i got the money for headers, intake, cam gears and valve springs... is it pointless for me to replace some of those things? people are telling me it wont add power so im confussed on what to do.

 

It's not pointless, but it's not a no-brainer.

Do the research and plan it carefully.

There's two schools of though.

1.Replace each component and dyno each time, so you have an idea of what effect each items' having.

2.Research a package that definitely sounds like what you want, and go for it.

ITR motors will definitely respond to improvements, and there are many 200+ dyno HP ITR that are entirely streetable, and normally aspirated.

You specifically asked about cams, though.

It's not a waste, by any means, but it should probably be one of the last things you do, after a new computer. IMHO.

This is the last dyno of my car, and it was at 192 HP on the stock cams.

 

nice numbers George

 

where can i find itr parts? do u know?

 

everywhere, any automotive online car store makes parts for the b18c5

 

Yep.

Sure do.



I'd be more comfortable knowing the direction you're going, first.

For example, my own car has a complete SMSP system from header all the way back. The header by itself usually sells for $1200.

However, if you're only after mild, economical modifications for a daily driver, then it might be dumb for you not to go the OEM JDM 4-1 header route, which is a hell of a lot cheaper and might do all that you want.

What is it you are trying to accomplish? Whither goest thou?

Are you sure you don't want to get to know your ITR motor a little better, first, before you spend a lot of money you might regret later?

Perhaps you want to think about driving it enough first to know what it is you don't like, if anything at all. There are certainly thousands of ITR drivers, including many who go to the track every season, who feel no need to modify at all.

 

ok. well i mean. the problem i had was that people were just telling me that it was pointless to change things when i know it isnt. i found the certain parts that i waned. thanx guys

 

Would you care to tell us what you're buying?

 

sure. the intake im getting is going to be the aem v2, the exaust i have right now i dont really like.. its 3A racing.. but i found a spoon N1 exaust which i plan on buying. what do you guys think of that exaust? I'm going to wait to buy the cams like George said and im looking into a skunk 2 ECU that i really like. any suggestions for the ecu? and as far as the header goes.. im looking for one right now online.

 

Intake: If you haven't already bought it, please be aware that the Comptech Icebox is the only cheap intake that seems to show gains on a basically stock ITR motor. The AEM does not give the big gains on the ITR motor that it gives on the GS-R motor. If you had a GS-R motor I'd say, sure, go w/the AEM.

Exhaust: Never heard of 3A Racing. By Spoon exhaust, I'm thinking you mean the axle back. This is fine, as a single improvment by itself, but it is loud!

Spoon makes a decent header for the ITR, but they don't make the parts between your axle-back Spoon and the header, so you'll have to look into making your own B pipe & c.

I don't know where you are in relation to Virginia, but that's one of the reasons I first looked at SMSP...he did the entire system from header all the way back, 2.5" w/no bottlenecks at all.

Computer: You said you liked the Skunk2 computer, but why? You've started buying Spoon parts, but you're getting a Skunk computer? Why not the Spoon computer?

The Skunk and Spoon computers are not really accessible for programming, either.

Your OEM computer is probably OK for a while, w/just intake, header and exhaust modifications if you reset the computer after the installations.

Once you start doing more to the car, like the cams that you started talking about, the cheapest Hondata system is going to be better than the Skunk and Spoon because your tuner can set up the Hondata for your particular car, your modifications, and how you want the car to behave.

It sounds crazy, but my VTEC engages at 3500 RPM, courtesy of what the Hondata was telling us about how it improved the car's performance. If we'd plugged in a Spoon or Skunk computer, I don't think it would have ever occurred to us that VTEC that low could really help the car instead of hurt it.