K Series!?
06-26-2006, 08:31 PM
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hmm. buy it, stick in in your car, will be a good learning experience....
IMO: Buy a B16A (good starter motor), get all type R internals, cams, the works.
10 second street car, its possible, but it would be better if it were RWD and not FWD....
Im not you, and I am not sure how attatched you are to that civic, but I would sell the hatch, and the motor, to someone who wants to do the swap, and buy a RWD car.
IMO: Buy a B16A (good starter motor), get all type R internals, cams, the works.
10 second street car, its possible, but it would be better if it were RWD and not FWD....
Im not you, and I am not sure how attatched you are to that civic, but I would sell the hatch, and the motor, to someone who wants to do the swap, and buy a RWD car.
06-26-2006, 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by racerdave
hmm. buy it, stick in in your car, will be a good learning experience....
IMO: Buy a B16A (good starter motor), get all type R internals, cams, the works.
10 second street car, its possible, but it would be better if it were RWD and not FWD....
Im not you, and I am not sure how attatched you are to that civic, but I would sell the hatch, and the motor, to someone who wants to do the swap, and buy a RWD car.
IMO: Buy a B16A (good starter motor), get all type R internals, cams, the works.
10 second street car, its possible, but it would be better if it were RWD and not FWD....
Im not you, and I am not sure how attatched you are to that civic, but I would sell the hatch, and the motor, to someone who wants to do the swap, and buy a RWD car.
If you can get the swap that cheap, may as well. If it's not the K20A2 Type S, I wouldn't even bother. The K20A3 is a lame duck with no aftermarket support.
06-26-2006, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by AF
If he wants to have a 10-second hatch and has the pockets for it, then there is no such thing as an unrealistic beginning goal.
Originally Posted by latinracerct
and i did have rwd 85 rx7 gslse it was so so fun
06-27-2006, 04:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AF
H22's aren't heavy....in an EG, EK or an Accord.
In an EF chassis, you feel the weight. It's several hundred pounds heavier than a stock D-Series. A couple hundred pounds added to a car that weighs barely over 2000 pounds, that's almost a 10% weight gain, and it's all up front.
You'll feel it.
In an EF chassis, you feel the weight. It's several hundred pounds heavier than a stock D-Series. A couple hundred pounds added to a car that weighs barely over 2000 pounds, that's almost a 10% weight gain, and it's all up front.
You'll feel it.
06-27-2006, 05:03 AM
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Originally Posted by sherwood
i though someone weighed out everything and the h22 was only 35 lbs heavier than a D
H22 = 123lb short block
B16 = 104lb short block
D = 100lb short block + oil pan
trans:
H22 trans = 96lb
B16 trans = 90lb
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550&page=3
06-27-2006, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DaNnYsEvEn
motors:
H22 = 123lb short block
B16 = 104lb short block
D = 100lb short block + oil pan
trans:
H22 trans = 96lb
B16 trans = 90lb
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550&page=3
H22 = 123lb short block
B16 = 104lb short block
D = 100lb short block + oil pan
trans:
H22 trans = 96lb
B16 trans = 90lb
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550&page=3
06-27-2006, 12:14 PM
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it still is a considerably higher weight to place over the front, but once you eliminate all the extras which usually get in the way of this kind of swap (such as the A/C) i'd imgaine that it comes out to be about the same weight.
i'd still rather have a k20/24 hybrid tho
i'd still rather have a k20/24 hybrid tho
06-27-2006, 01:13 PM
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the b-series is your best bet. for someone like you i'd imagine the best idea would be to pick a swap that is simple and has been done before, once you gain more knowledge you migth eventually want to move onto something more exotic, but i feel that sticking a b18 or a b20 in there would greatly improve your performance as well as the grin on your face.
personally i would try and find a GSR motor (labeled b18c1 in the US or if it is a JDM counterpart it will be labeled b18C and have an advertised output around 180hp)
the increase in torque out of any of the raised deck b-series should be enough to make you happy for now, and the b series has alot of potential for future goals. (these engines i am refering to are the b18 and b20 derivitives excluding the b20a)
personally i would try and find a GSR motor (labeled b18c1 in the US or if it is a JDM counterpart it will be labeled b18C and have an advertised output around 180hp)
the increase in torque out of any of the raised deck b-series should be enough to make you happy for now, and the b series has alot of potential for future goals. (these engines i am refering to are the b18 and b20 derivitives excluding the b20a)