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10-15-2003, 07:18 PM
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swap question
I got some guy who just came to me and wants me to put a 87 Integra engine into his 89 4 door civic..To me it looks like all mounts are fine except the drivers side engine mount. There is a BIG ass difference..My question is..is this swap possible without custom making a mount? and If I gotta make a mount about how hard would it be. I will also appreciate it if anyone seen a site where this has been done to send me a link. Thanks ALOT!
10-15-2003, 09:45 PM
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You don't want to do that. The trans mount is different, and most if not all of the others are different too. That engine also uses a completely different pre-OBD computer system with a vacuum advance distributor. That engine will swap straight into an 84-87 body, but will be hard as hell to put in an 88+. The D16A1 is a browntop ZC pattern engine, you would need a blacktop for a direct swap.
Mind you, the '87 Integra D16A1 is only a 112hp engine. It's not worth all the suffering the swap would cause.
Mind you, the '87 Integra D16A1 is only a 112hp engine. It's not worth all the suffering the swap would cause.
10-16-2003, 04:39 PM
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it is not for me...for someone else...and his car is dpfi so I was gonna switch the whole harness over over..(from ecu to engine)...He does not want the acura tranny because it is a automatic..so he wants to use his dx 5spd..anyone know anything about that drivers side mount???
10-17-2003, 03:03 AM
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Originally posted by Redlinerz
it is not for me...for someone else...and his car is dpfi so I was gonna switch the whole harness over over..(from ecu to engine)...He does not want the acura tranny because it is a automatic..so he wants to use his dx 5spd..anyone know anything about that drivers side mount???
it is not for me...for someone else...and his car is dpfi so I was gonna switch the whole harness over over..(from ecu to engine)...He does not want the acura tranny because it is a automatic..so he wants to use his dx 5spd..anyone know anything about that drivers side mount???
10-19-2003, 01:49 PM
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Won't he have to only worry about one mount though? Since he plans on keeping the civic trans..The fuel system point does make sense though I will have to explain that to him as well. So I can't just do the wiring as if I were going from dpfi to mpfi? Also since I have the whole car I can just take the whole harness and switch that and shouldn't all the electrical and fuel system be ok? The way I am seeing it is the 1 mount is my major concern and I have a friend that works in a machine shop so we can come up with something? But kai shouldn't it be ok if I just switch EVERYTHING (ecu to engine harness, and all engine componets in the bay) over to his? Thanks
10-20-2003, 10:06 AM
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Listen kai I ALREADY SAID "NOT FOR ME" ok I am not doing this swap someone wants me o do it and is gonna pay me to do it. If it is psiible I will do it and charge him. Learn to read! I don't care if it is strong or whatever IT IS NOT FOR MY CAR! I was just asking simple questions. And for future reference don't get stupid with me again I don't appreaciate it, especially coming from someone who's car is still a project. Think about it you are trying to make money buy doind swaps and what not. If someone comes to your with something and is gonna pay you who am I to tell them no not to do it. I advised him already and told him it wont be worth it but he still wants it. What am I going to do refuse? NO I will do it it is his problem not mine. So don't come at me sideways!!
10-21-2003, 07:13 AM
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Go to resource.crx.org and register.
They are talkign about that swap now and how people have modified the mounts. Ofcourse there are the people who say no one does it for a 4hp gain but it has been done.
Check it out.
-Eric
They are talkign about that swap now and how people have modified the mounts. Ofcourse there are the people who say no one does it for a 4hp gain but it has been done.
Check it out.
-Eric
10-21-2003, 12:09 PM
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I obviously don't care whos car it is for. Is it that hard to figure out? I wouldn't do the swap even if someone paid me to. Why? Because the second generation ZC is the same damn engine, but it bolts into the 4G Civic body with a real OBD-0 control system. No mount concerns, no major wiring/vaccuum line headaches.
My car is "still a project" because I won't even bring it up from Florida for a few more days.
If you really have your little heart set on doing this, go here: http://www.quickhonda.net/zc2000.htm
Mind you, he used a new ZC head on the old block.
My car is "still a project" because I won't even bring it up from Florida for a few more days.
If you really have your little heart set on doing this, go here: http://www.quickhonda.net/zc2000.htm
Mind you, he used a new ZC head on the old block.