just wondering if anyone else has been having problems with their 6-spd cl type-s? i've got one and my clutch keeps slipping on me (i think) --> feels like i'm losing power every once and while for a second or two. it is very evident in the morning on a cold start, where the clutch seems to slip at about 1 mile into my drive... also i have experienced the car "bouncing/shaking" (occasionally) in sixth at around 2,000 rpms... from "i can only assume" the clutch slipping<--if i engage/disengage the clutch, the car drives fine afterwards. my acura dealership states that they are aware of the problem, however, cannot fix it until they get more info from honda directly. their telling me that honda is unsure where the problem is originating within the powertrain due to its "sporadic nature" with consumers. i think it's a load of crap, and that my dealership just doesn't want to touch the darn thing.

just wondering if anyone else has experienced this problem and if they have been able to fix it properly. any help would be greatly appreciated as this is extremely annoying on an otherwise fantastic car.

best regards,
roman

 

I'm guessing its the same as mine. It only happens when cold, and seems to hesitate for a couple seconds, then runs fine. Not the clutch, I think its in the injection, but that's just a guess. Others have reported the same problem, no known fix yet. I just ignore it and keep going. Been this way for a year, so????

 

thanks for the info starter.... that sounds on par with what is happening with mine. in fact it is actually getting worse for me, with it now occuring more and more in sixth gear on the freeways. this is why i really want to get it fixed as soon as i can. i don't believe in paying for a product that doesn't work properly, to only try to live with it the way it is.

 

I experience this problem as well. It is most noticable to me only when i have the AC on and i am at low rpms in lower gears in a mostly coasting condition. If I turn off the AC its disappears. Does this sound right? Possibly the load of the AC compressor is pronounced under these driving conditions?

 

thanks mjb,

i've tried driving the car with the a/c off for the past couple of days and i must say that it has solved the problem. just the other day coming home from work the problem came back on the highway when all of a sudden the car felt like it was hesitating... i kept my foot steady on the gas and turned the a/c off, the problem strangely went away. i find this problem really annoying and unacceptable with a car of this class, and will keep bugging the dealer until they fix it.

ps. if anyone has this same problem and has successfully got this fixed, please let us know.... as it looks like there might be a fair amount of people with similar problems.

thanks again mjb,

roman

 

I think it is because the A/C compressor is kicking in and it draws alot of current to run it. That's why sometimes you will feel the RPM go down momentarily when you turn your A/C on. By the way, this is normal.

 

Understand your reasoning, except for two things: 1) A car with as much hp & torque as a CL-S shouldn't be affected by the a/c kicking in. 2) Most people only have the problem in the 1st 5 minutes of operation when cold, usually just once, and then it goes away until the next cold operation. Oops, make that three things -- the a/c is belt driven & takes zero current to operate. On a low hp motor it's the power required to drive the belt when the a/c clutch starts that causes a reduction in available hp.

Mine has been like this since new (27,000K now) and doesn't get worst or better, it just is.

 

When you turn the A/C on, it puts a load on the charging/electrical system. If you don't believe me, go get a volt meter and take a reading at idle with no A/C on. It would probably read somewhere between 12-14 volts. Turn the A/C on and you'll probably see it drop to 10-12 volts for a few seconds and then it will return to normal.

 

The small current drain caused by the electrical controls related to the a/c puts a small load on the alternator and is negligable compared to the hp drain required to operate th a/c compressor which is belt driven off the engine. The a/c compressor is what causes the drop in rpm & hp and is most noticable on smaller hp motors.

If this was the cause of the problems that started this thread, it would happen everytime the a/c kicked in and not just once or twice when just starting up and cold.

 

Well, from what mjbchem and romand are saying, turning the a/c off tends to cure the problem that they were having.