Silverstar 9005/9006 Conversion Questions
#31
WOW!!!
I'm one that really appreciates this thread!! I just bought a set of 9005 silverstars and I wanted to use them as low beams but I didn't know exactly what I had to modify. At work (i work at advance auto parts) I was eyeing them for the longest and finally decided that I was just gonna see if I could fit em in.
Well atleast now I know what it takes and this will save me alot of cursing out in the cold
OH and no it's not for the cool looks (for people who might not agree), it's b/c these damn highways here have no lights! My stock crap isn't enough and I usually have to drive around w/ my high beams on
SO thanks again folks for the link and the thread!:thumbup:
I'm one that really appreciates this thread!! I just bought a set of 9005 silverstars and I wanted to use them as low beams but I didn't know exactly what I had to modify. At work (i work at advance auto parts) I was eyeing them for the longest and finally decided that I was just gonna see if I could fit em in.
Well atleast now I know what it takes and this will save me alot of cursing out in the cold
OH and no it's not for the cool looks (for people who might not agree), it's b/c these damn highways here have no lights! My stock crap isn't enough and I usually have to drive around w/ my high beams on
SO thanks again folks for the link and the thread!:thumbup:
#32
Originally posted by jschmid
Do the math bro...more lumens aimed in the same place will give more light...the reason it looks brighter is because it IS brighter. Just because you are using the high beam lights doesn't mean it's directing light higher.
Do the math bro...more lumens aimed in the same place will give more light...the reason it looks brighter is because it IS brighter. Just because you are using the high beam lights doesn't mean it's directing light higher.
9006: 30 lumens @ 0 degrees; 5 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal)
9005: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 30 lumens @ 5 degrees (b/c of different 9005 housing aiming)
9005 in 9006 housing: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 10 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal).
So what you have done is double the amount of light coming straight at me (which isn't much of a problem for another passenger car behind/approaching me). But you have also doubled the amount of light shining in an upward angle--the light that usually ends up in my rear/side view mirrors OR in my eyes.
So there's nothing wrong with doubling the light, right?
And to the Penn dude--that's what hight beams are for. You should have to switch them on when you need them. Then switch them off when you don't. Or is it tooo much for you to reach over to the signal light lever to pull it towards you. oh wait, you're probably one of those people who don't use signal lights, either. You see, the thing about high beams is that you can actually switch them off when traffic is approaching OR you are approaching another car travelling the same direction (although alot of people don't know this).
On the other hand, I hardly ever use my high beams for driving. And I've logged over 100k miles in 3 years on my Accord. Been driving through the mountains of WV and VA's I-77 highway.
Maybe if you guys kept your faces out of the stupid box, your sight wouldn't be soooo bad.
#33
Originally posted by JiggaFan
here's what I'm saying. I don't know much about light output physics, but here goes.
9006: 30 lumens @ 0 degrees; 5 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal)
9005: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 30 lumens @ 5 degrees (b/c of different 9005 housing aiming)
9005 in 9006 housing: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 10 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal).
So what you have done is double the amount of light coming straight at me (which isn't much of a problem for another passenger car behind/approaching me). But you have also doubled the amount of light shining in an upward angle--the light that usually ends up in my rear/side view mirrors OR in my eyes.
So there's nothing wrong with doubling the light, right?
And to the Penn dude--that's what hight beams are for. You should have to switch them on when you need them. Then switch them off when you don't. Or is it tooo much for you to reach over to the signal light lever to pull it towards you. oh wait, you're probably one of those people who don't use signal lights, either. You see, the thing about high beams is that you can actually switch them off when traffic is approaching OR you are approaching another car travelling the same direction (although alot of people don't know this).
On the other hand, I hardly ever use my high beams for driving. And I've logged over 100k miles in 3 years on my Accord. Been driving through the mountains of WV and VA's I-77 highway.
Maybe if you guys kept your faces out of the stupid box, your sight wouldn't be soooo bad.
here's what I'm saying. I don't know much about light output physics, but here goes.
9006: 30 lumens @ 0 degrees; 5 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal)
9005: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 30 lumens @ 5 degrees (b/c of different 9005 housing aiming)
9005 in 9006 housing: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 10 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal).
So what you have done is double the amount of light coming straight at me (which isn't much of a problem for another passenger car behind/approaching me). But you have also doubled the amount of light shining in an upward angle--the light that usually ends up in my rear/side view mirrors OR in my eyes.
So there's nothing wrong with doubling the light, right?
And to the Penn dude--that's what hight beams are for. You should have to switch them on when you need them. Then switch them off when you don't. Or is it tooo much for you to reach over to the signal light lever to pull it towards you. oh wait, you're probably one of those people who don't use signal lights, either. You see, the thing about high beams is that you can actually switch them off when traffic is approaching OR you are approaching another car travelling the same direction (although alot of people don't know this).
On the other hand, I hardly ever use my high beams for driving. And I've logged over 100k miles in 3 years on my Accord. Been driving through the mountains of WV and VA's I-77 highway.
Maybe if you guys kept your faces out of the stupid box, your sight wouldn't be soooo bad.
I don't have time to find out if what you're saying is true...but if it is...who the hell cares about 5 extra lumens in their eyes or mirrors!?
And I thought 9005 gave out about 50-60% more light than 9006, not double.
I've had 9005's in my low beam sockets for over a year, and I have NEVER been flashed on the road, never had any complains while following friends in their cars, never any problems with law enforcement...etc.
Where I live, every 4th car has OEM HID...you think other drivers are going to notice my little extra bit of halogen light when they have HID's bearing down on them from every angle?
There are a lot of worse things out there in the world than me having high beams in my low beam socket. Get over it.
#35
PENN STATE finally had a warm dry day last week and I installed some silverstars (9005's) for my low beams and wow! Either my bulbs were about to go or this conversion is worth the ten minutes of work w/ my dremel :thumbup:
#36
Originally posted by JiggaFan
here's what I'm saying. I don't know much about light output physics, but here goes.
9006: 30 lumens @ 0 degrees; 5 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal)
9005: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 30 lumens @ 5 degrees (b/c of different 9005 housing aiming)
9005 in 9006 housing: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 10 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal).
So what you have done is double the amount of light coming straight at me (which isn't much of a problem for another passenger car behind/approaching me). But you have also doubled the amount of light shining in an upward angle--the light that usually ends up in my rear/side view mirrors OR in my eyes.
So there's nothing wrong with doubling the light, right?
And to the Penn dude--that's what hight beams are for. You should have to switch them on when you need them. Then switch them off when you don't. Or is it tooo much for you to reach over to the signal light lever to pull it towards you. oh wait, you're probably one of those people who don't use signal lights, either. You see, the thing about high beams is that you can actually switch them off when traffic is approaching OR you are approaching another car travelling the same direction (although alot of people don't know this).
On the other hand, I hardly ever use my high beams for driving. And I've logged over 100k miles in 3 years on my Accord. Been driving through the mountains of WV and VA's I-77 highway.
Maybe if you guys kept your faces out of the stupid box, your sight wouldn't be soooo bad.
here's what I'm saying. I don't know much about light output physics, but here goes.
9006: 30 lumens @ 0 degrees; 5 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal)
9005: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 30 lumens @ 5 degrees (b/c of different 9005 housing aiming)
9005 in 9006 housing: 60 lumens @ 0 degrees; 10 lumens @ 5 degrees (above horizontal).
So what you have done is double the amount of light coming straight at me (which isn't much of a problem for another passenger car behind/approaching me). But you have also doubled the amount of light shining in an upward angle--the light that usually ends up in my rear/side view mirrors OR in my eyes.
So there's nothing wrong with doubling the light, right?
And to the Penn dude--that's what hight beams are for. You should have to switch them on when you need them. Then switch them off when you don't. Or is it tooo much for you to reach over to the signal light lever to pull it towards you. oh wait, you're probably one of those people who don't use signal lights, either. You see, the thing about high beams is that you can actually switch them off when traffic is approaching OR you are approaching another car travelling the same direction (although alot of people don't know this).
On the other hand, I hardly ever use my high beams for driving. And I've logged over 100k miles in 3 years on my Accord. Been driving through the mountains of WV and VA's I-77 highway.
Maybe if you guys kept your faces out of the stupid box, your sight wouldn't be soooo bad.
Ok second, I wish I was in Souf Carolina too, cuz you'd whip out your 3 cell mag light, and I'd whip out my 10 million candle power spot light and run you off the road.
Lasty since you seem to think you are educated spitting out principles of light refraction, let'f first get our numbers straight. Hb4(9006) is 1100 lumens, Hb3(9005) is 1900 lumens, however the luminosity of the 9005 would be severely restricted in the low beam housing due to the fact that there's a shield in the way making a clean cutoff.(just to point out, 4300k d2s is 3200 lumens, d2r is 2800lumens, exact same bulb with a shield on it, go figure). With a decent cutoff and aimed correctly. At 0° I'd be willing to bet there's less than 5 lumens of bleeding from the shield, by 5 to 10 degrees I'd say less than 1 lumen. So your crying and *****ing is moot. If you really want to crunch numbers I'll borrow some equipmet from a friend when I get back from back from overseas next month. The biggest problem with HID is the color, which the NTSC has also found to be true. You're so used to the yellow lamps going along that you pay no attention to them, but when cool blue headlamps come around you look at them. This same prolem happened when Halogen first came to use, jackasses would look straight at the beam and wonder why they couldn't see. Same thing with HID.
this is a properly aimed hid setup, and I even oversaturated the picture to show how little bleeding there is, I also have it aimed 6" down at 20 feet.
this is a philips 4300k d2r setup, with cheap blue fogs in OEM housings(some of the bleeding is because of the chrome on the headlight housings, some of it is refraction off of the other walls of the carport(well actually it's a boat port, the white thing I'm shining on)
but never fear in the quest for better lighting l'm in the middle of installing hella HID projectors in a spare set of housings I have.
#38
Originally posted by DownLowAcc
so are those Silverstones just super white? or are they "HID look"? they have a tint of blue or purple in them? I was thinking of getting those.
so are those Silverstones just super white? or are they "HID look"? they have a tint of blue or purple in them? I was thinking of getting those.
They don't have a tint of blue/purple or anything riced like that. They're just pure white, "Arctic" white. If you just want it for looks, just do the regular 9006 bulb replacement.
#39
My Catz Galaxy White 9005 conversion bulbs finally blew out on me a few days ago. I've had them for about a year and the right bulb developed a big bubble on the side of the bulb. But I'm not too terribly disappointed.
But from my experience of using 9005 bulbs in the 9006 (low-beam) socket is that SOME people do get bothered by it. Just as the 9006 bulbs have a coating to produce a certain cut-off, the absence of that coating at the tip makes the bulb glare more (probably) than legal limits. I don't exactly blind people off the road but it definitely does give some unwanted glare to oncoming and same-direction traffic.
Would I do it again? Sure. I don't have very good night driving vision and more light helps. I'll eventually go with HID's but they'd probably produce more glare in my housing than these 9005 conversion bulbs. So for now I have regular 9006 OEM bulbs in my 9006 socket but will eventually use my unopened 9005 SilverStar bulbs for another conversion or go with HID's.
BUT IF YOU DO NOTICE SOME GLARE FROM YOUR HEADLIGHTS, IT IS RECOMMENDED YOU ALIGN YOUR HEADLIGHTS LOWER AS COURTESY TO OTHER MOTORISTS.
And to MonStar, why the heck would you put 9006 bulbs in a 9005 socket? The coating at the end of 9006 bulbs would decrease your light output in the 9005 socket. For high beams, use 9005 bulbs to maximize your light output. Otherwise, your high bulbs won't flash or brighten the road as much.
But from my experience of using 9005 bulbs in the 9006 (low-beam) socket is that SOME people do get bothered by it. Just as the 9006 bulbs have a coating to produce a certain cut-off, the absence of that coating at the tip makes the bulb glare more (probably) than legal limits. I don't exactly blind people off the road but it definitely does give some unwanted glare to oncoming and same-direction traffic.
Would I do it again? Sure. I don't have very good night driving vision and more light helps. I'll eventually go with HID's but they'd probably produce more glare in my housing than these 9005 conversion bulbs. So for now I have regular 9006 OEM bulbs in my 9006 socket but will eventually use my unopened 9005 SilverStar bulbs for another conversion or go with HID's.
BUT IF YOU DO NOTICE SOME GLARE FROM YOUR HEADLIGHTS, IT IS RECOMMENDED YOU ALIGN YOUR HEADLIGHTS LOWER AS COURTESY TO OTHER MOTORISTS.
And to MonStar, why the heck would you put 9006 bulbs in a 9005 socket? The coating at the end of 9006 bulbs would decrease your light output in the 9005 socket. For high beams, use 9005 bulbs to maximize your light output. Otherwise, your high bulbs won't flash or brighten the road as much.