Why doesn't Accord have as many hp/liter as the other hondas?
#11
That's funny, someone where I work was talking about cars, and said that Hondas are well known for getting approximately 80 to 100 hp per liter. I'm like..uhh..yeah, unfortunately not all Hondas.
'00 Civic Si: 100 hp/l
'96 Accord LX: 61.4 hp/l
WTF?
'00 Civic Si: 100 hp/l
'96 Accord LX: 61.4 hp/l
WTF?
#14
One thing I do wonder is: Why did the 5th gen accord come with such an obscenely low CR?
What was so special about 8.8:1? Why not make it 9:1 or even 9.5:1? Neither one would have required premium gas and would prolly translate to at least another 10-15 crank ponies? Was it emissions? fuel economy?
It's weird when you stop and think about the compromises that went into making your car....
noel
What was so special about 8.8:1? Why not make it 9:1 or even 9.5:1? Neither one would have required premium gas and would prolly translate to at least another 10-15 crank ponies? Was it emissions? fuel economy?
It's weird when you stop and think about the compromises that went into making your car....
noel
#15
emissions laws are more strict in america. thats often why the same model car in europe or japan is more powerful. when you see that, most of the time they had to reduce the emissions of the engine, which has the side effect of lower power.
also the 5th gen engine is old.. as time goes on, honda engineers will find better and better ways to make an engine more powerful, while reducing emissions and being more fuel efficient.
one other thing, gasoline quality in europe is also much better. in america we usually have 87, 89, and 91 or 92 octane gas to fill up with. in europe, so i hear anyway, the lowest one is 92...... its more expensive, of course. but still, they get it, we don't.
also the 5th gen engine is old.. as time goes on, honda engineers will find better and better ways to make an engine more powerful, while reducing emissions and being more fuel efficient.
one other thing, gasoline quality in europe is also much better. in america we usually have 87, 89, and 91 or 92 octane gas to fill up with. in europe, so i hear anyway, the lowest one is 92...... its more expensive, of course. but still, they get it, we don't.
#17
I've heard of gas in Japan that's in the 100 octane range. With that kind of stability you can imagine how high the compression in their engines get. Fun...
Of course higher octane means more pollutants, so we don't get that stuff over here. Personally I don't see it as that big a deal, I enjoy my fresh air. So long as we're all on a level playing field on this continent it's cool with me.
Of course higher octane means more pollutants, so we don't get that stuff over here. Personally I don't see it as that big a deal, I enjoy my fresh air. So long as we're all on a level playing field on this continent it's cool with me.
#18
Originally posted by lubs
I've heard of gas in Japan that's in the 100 octane range. With that kind of stability you can imagine how high the compression in their engines get. Fun...
Of course higher octane means more pollutants, so we don't get that stuff over here. Personally I don't see it as that big a deal, I enjoy my fresh air. So long as we're all on a level playing field on this continent it's cool with me.
I've heard of gas in Japan that's in the 100 octane range. With that kind of stability you can imagine how high the compression in their engines get. Fun...
Of course higher octane means more pollutants, so we don't get that stuff over here. Personally I don't see it as that big a deal, I enjoy my fresh air. So long as we're all on a level playing field on this continent it's cool with me.
#19
Originally posted by lubs
Power to weight ratio is much more important than hp/L. As everyone has already said, hp/L is really a meaningless statistic. It's neat to see how "efficient" some engines are with power production, but it's not telling of their performance whatsoever.
On a side note, "BMW Sucks!" is a pretty lame thing to put in your signature. BMWs are great, and you can mark my words as a Honda owner.
Power to weight ratio is much more important than hp/L. As everyone has already said, hp/L is really a meaningless statistic. It's neat to see how "efficient" some engines are with power production, but it's not telling of their performance whatsoever.
On a side note, "BMW Sucks!" is a pretty lame thing to put in your signature. BMWs are great, and you can mark my words as a Honda owner.