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Old 02-10-2006 | 05:59 AM
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i got a 99 v6 accord...now is it worth the money to hook it up as in speed wise or will i end up spending too much money for little speed? i was thinking of buying a 240 and hooking that bad boy up..run 2 cars...daily drivin accord and a 240 street car...but i still want the accord to pushsome power...since the stick tranny aint gonna happen anytime soon, i was thinking about what can i do to make thiss car about 250 to the wheels without and turbo..so far i came up with.
cam gears
taek out the governer
chip it
headers
exhaust
intake
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Old 02-10-2006 | 06:08 AM
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you get about 150 to the wheels right now, stock. To get 250 to the wheels ... you'll need about 330HP to the flywheel. Even with the Comptech Supercharger set at 6lbs of boost (any higher, you'll kill the tranny), you won't be there.

Also, V6 parts are very expensive. A set of Comtech Headers will run about $1,200.
Old 02-10-2006 | 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by pierranchis
i got a 99 v6 accord...now is it worth the money to hook it up as in speed wise or will i end up spending too much money for little speed? i was thinking of buying a 240 and hooking that bad boy up..run 2 cars...daily drivin accord and a 240 street car...but i still want the accord to pushsome power...since the stick tranny aint gonna happen anytime soon, i was thinking about what can i do to make thiss car about 250 to the wheels without and turbo..so far i came up with.
cam gears
taek out the governer
chip it
headers
exhaust
intake
anymore suggestions???
:lmao: 250 to the wheels...the J30A1 puts down like 160-165 stock on a really good day with the shitty automatic. I wouldn't go over 210 or 220 (with nitrous or an S/C) unless you want to upgrade your tranny or end up replacing it every 30-40k miles.

cam gears: 0 horsepower unless you're fairly heavily modified, and if you don't know what you're doing you're gonna screw up your timing and kill your gas mileage in a bad way.
taek out the governer:...there is no governor, the car's top speed is aerodynamically limited
chip it: A Unichip for I/H/E will get you about 7HP extra (not counting the other mods) average across the powerband for $750. A unichip without I/H/E, just a stock AV6, will get you like 10-12HP average.
headers: they'll get you quite a bit of power, all around the power band. See comptech's site: http://www.comptechusa.com/store/med...Headerplot.pdf
exhaust: maybe 4-5 WHP depending on what kind you get
intake: an SRI will get you like 8-10 horsies I reckon. I have this and it made a huge difference, I really like it.

So say peak power is around 56-5800RPM...with all those you're looking at a max gain of about 30WHP for around $2500 easily not installed. So you'll be looking at maybe 210-215 or so WHP. I haven't done it because it's not worth it to me, but the J30A1 has some potential. Not nearly as much as the A4 or the J32, but it's there. Good luck
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Wrong car to work with. The Accord is the wrong car for speed period.
Old 02-10-2006 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by AF
Wrong car to work with. The Accord is the wrong car for speed period.
Shhhh I have VTEC
Old 02-10-2006 | 07:12 AM
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maybe... with a j32 and tranny swap with supercharger. :chuckles:
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I'm not a fan of Comptech blowers, at all...possibly with the exception of the S2000 unit.
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I'm not a fan of Comptech blowers, at all...possibly with the exception of the S2000 unit.
Oh you're not a fan of anything FWD. You need to buy an M3 to complete the Honda hater image :fawk:
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Originally Posted by 98CoupeV6
Oh you're not a fan of anything FWD. You need to buy an M3 to complete the Honda hater image :fawk:
I still like FWD, I'm doing the Civic aren't I?

I don't like Comptech (or JRSC) blowers because they are roots positive displacement blowers which usually do jack shit on smaller engines, which includes a 3.0 liter V6. You can only force so much air into 3000cc's worth of space before the gases can't escape quick enough.

These type of blowers work well on big engines like domestic V8's because they have a lot of displacement to fill with only atmospheric pressure forcing air in. 7psi of natural atmospheric pressure has a lot easier time filling 3000cc then it does 6000cc.

That's why turbochargers work better on smaller engines because it creates a vacuum effect on the intake by forcing out exhaust gases, essentially solving the problem stated before.

Now something like a Vortech centrifigual supercharger which needs to spin up to 100,000RPM before creating boost is better. It doesn't spool nearly as quickly as a roots, but by the time it hits 100,000RPM and is creating boost, you're at 4000RPM+ and the engine is in a better position to flow exhaust gases more efficiently.
Old 02-10-2006 | 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by AF
I still like FWD, I'm doing the Civic aren't I?

I don't like Comptech (or JRSC) blowers because they are roots positive displacement blowers which usually do jack shit on smaller engines, which includes a 3.0 liter V6. You can only force so much air into 3000cc's worth of space before the gases can't escape quick enough.

These type of blowers work well on big engines like domestic V8's because they have a lot of displacement to fill with only atmospheric pressure forcing air in. 7psi of natural atmospheric pressure has a lot easier time filling 3000cc then it does 6000cc.

That's why turbochargers work better on smaller engines because it creates a vacuum effect on the intake by forcing out exhaust gases, essentially solving the problem stated before.

Now something like a Vortech centrifigual supercharger which needs to spin up to 100,000RPM before creating boost is better. It doesn't spool nearly as quickly as a roots, but by the time it hits 100,000RPM and is creating boost, you're at 4000RPM+ and the engine is in a better position to flow exhaust gases more efficiently.
I'm surprised you don't get far more poon with your vast knowledge of piston rings and turbochargers :chuckles:

Seriously though, you're teaching me a lot today



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