Looking to put CAI on my wifes 05 Accord Sedan, I4, 5AT

This appears to be a problem on the suface. It appears nobody sells a kit for this with MAF and I find this really strange. Many cars and trucks have MAF and do very good with CAI or short ram systems. I have friends with CAI with MAF on Toyotas, no problems. They even have them with turbos and supercharged with MAF. Turbo and supercharged needs a higher volume MAF, but thats no biggy.

My Ranger has a MAF and IAT sensors. I put a cone filter on it with a heat sheild and cold air induction hose and have no problems what so ever. I didnt change the induction tube / duct, but see no reason why I couldnt if the sensors where modded back in a new duct. And the result needed was attained. It now has abit more mid-range power.

So can I just get a AEM, Injen or what ever kit and mod the MAF back in the new duct and move on? This seems sooooo simple but frot with terror. LMAO. Rest the ECU and move?

Thanks
Psy

 

Have a 2003 Accord, I4 sedan. K&N CAI. No MAF sensor. I beleive it has never been even installed. I guess not all Accords have it.
Here is the thread that may help you. Thanks to JimBlake
MAF sensor

Hope this helps.

Cheers

 

You might see just as many hp gains if you removed the OE resonator from the behind bumper and installed a K&N filter in the air box.

That's pretty much what the Comptech kit does for the TSX, I wonder if the Comptech kit wouldn't fit the I4 Accord?

Are the airboxes the same?

 

I believe the airboxes are the same...the K24 from a TSX that we have at work appears to have the exact same airbox as the K24 from the Accord. It's probably just a little less restrictive.

Why exactly does your wife want a CAI? It's a bit risky putting something that can suck a gallon of water into your engine in a split second on a brand new car IMO.

 

"Why exactly does your wife want a CAI? It's a bit risky putting something that can suck a gallon of water into your engine in a split second on a brand new car IMO."

Why not?

Abit more grunt getting on freeways and getting around Tulsa metro isnt that not a good thing.

Ive been running CAI for many years in one fourm or another. Ive never seen a engine suck a enough water to hydro lock or screw the engine up.

Dont take your Accord to the hunting lease and ford creeks and dont drive it off into small ponds and when its raining then adhear to the warning signs of high water in low areas.

Why take a new Accord and do any of that stuff.

Well thanks for the replies. wife thinks her new accord hates her now,,, LMAO
Told her we would look into other options.

psy

 

Well I explained why not, it just seems kind of ridiculous to me to risk a new car under warranty for an extra 5 horsepower...but that's just my opinion, like all of my other non-technical posts. Of course accidents don't happen. I don't even live in the south and I've had more than a few instances where we've had so much rain in such a short period of time that all of the secondary roads and boulevards had 6-10 inches in some spots, more than enough to induce hydrolock.

FYI, your CAI is probably going to hurt your low end power under light to moderate throttle. In the J30, an SRI would have been better if you wanted 'grunt' due to it having a more correct resonance. That was the case with the J30A1 and probably holds true with the new generation.

But anyway, isn't your MAF right on your throttle body? Mine is. I assumed all Hondas were like that, no?

 

Do they even make a full CAI for the k24? I think they are all short rams, nothing wrong with a short ram, it's just a more efficient air filter nothing wrong with that, talk about harmless. If you suck water with a short ram we have other, larger issues.

If you keep the full undertray and splash shield on the car the risk of ingestion is low.

An Ice box or removed reasonotor or a shortram should all be very safe and well away from warranty voiding.

I had (have) the the CAI AEM on my Accord from day one it went in for some warranty work, they threatened but couldn't legally denie work. It didn't effect the engine it was simply a less restrictive (and louder) air cleaner.

Our TSX is under the CPO warranty program and will be for many years. I see no reason to not put a more efficient air filter on our TSX when the filter change is needed. I last checked at 10,000mi and our OE honda filter still looks like new, no reason to replace it just yet IMO.

 

MAF is in the top of the filter box. Right infront of intake duct. :screwy: Im droping the thought of a aftermarket intake all together at this point. There is some Frankenstine looking thing in the duct also hanging off the back side.

I'll stop by the Tulsa Acura dealer and look at a TSX intake system. I will just have to work up the nerve to stop by and have to get close to those stuckup :ghey: Feel I need a shower when i leave a Acura or Toyota dealer around here.

I took a fast look at the one in the Accord. It has sub ducting or pressure areas moldin and along the main duct tract. So I would be these are the sound canceling chambers used instead of a inline resonator.

The duct track is strange and intresting all in one package.

The intake is right up against the bluckhead for the rad. on condeing coil for the a/c with a hood on it. with afew slits and openings in the bluckhead for air to get threw,, and ontop of that hot air off the condensing coil looks like it could get in.

Then the duct goes straight down and dose a U under the battery and comes up in the filter box. This could be a good tract for the tube to go. One would think that it mite be just abit cooler there and give the air a mil. sec. to cool... lolol.

Then comes out of the box and turns into the intake manny.

There looks like theres something to work with here.

Might beable to get more fresh air in with a intake duct mod. Put a K&N layin filter in it. Then insulate the filter box and remaining duct in the engine bay with Armaflex or any other numbers of insulation out there I can get for cheap and some contact cement. The insulation alone can do nothing but good on helping with keeping heat saturation out of the duct tract itself.

Just going to take a creative moment to fig. it out.

psy

 

Have you ever installed one of these before?

If it has a CARB no. (AEM, Comptech, Injen) it will be just fine on your wife's car. If you are this nervous why are you even thinking about it, just walk away now.....

You spend a few hundred bucks, gain 5hp and a really wicked intake sound at full throttle and higher RPM's...that's pretty much the gist of an aftermarket intake system.

 

hmm, injen sounds good. k&n to pricey.