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Old 08-08-2005 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by MrChad
Have you ever installed one of these before?

If it has a CARB no. (AEM, Comptech, Injen) it will be just fine on your wife's car. If you are this nervous why are you even thinking about it, just walk away now.....

You spend a few hundred bucks, gain 5hp and a really wicked intake sound at full throttle and higher RPM's...that's pretty much the gist of an aftermarket intake system.
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"So can I just get a AEM, Injen or what ever kit and mod the MAF back in the new duct and move on? This seems sooooo simple but frot with terror. LMAO. Rest the ECU and move?"

The terror being nobody seems to mod MAF back into after market system. Was a joke.

The crux of the question still remains the same. Has anybody done this and if so how did it work out? There are other options in other post concerning modding the stock unit up.

I fully well know what to expect from the mod and know the risk. And we know Ive atleast modded my rangers intake in and delt with the MAF and AIT sensors. and yes Ive messed with many a CAI system over the years.

So if theres anybody with some creativity or has worked thru this problem please post.

Quite frankly I dont think a MAF will shut down a intake mod or peeps that do do quality mods. Just havent ran into that quality of tech. person yet

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Old 08-08-2005 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by psyshack
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"So can I just get a AEM, Injen or what ever kit and mod the MAF back in the new duct and move on? This seems sooooo simple but frot with terror. LMAO. Rest the ECU and move?"

The terror being nobody seems to mod MAF back into after market system. Was a joke.

The crux of the question still remains the same. Has anybody done this and if so how did it work out? There are other options in other post concerning modding the stock unit up.

I fully well know what to expect from the mod and know the risk. And we know Ive atleast modded my rangers intake in and delt with the MAF and AIT sensors. and yes Ive messed with many a CAI system over the years.

So if theres anybody with some creativity or has worked thru this problem please post.

Quite frankly I dont think a MAF will shut down a intake mod or peeps that do do quality mods. Just havent ran into that quality of tech. person yet

psy

From what I've been told, it's there to back up the MAP. I also think that the MAF is also a IAT sensor built into one unit. I would assume that the legal type intake companys haven't pleased the cali smog police yet and that maybe it's just too new of a car to get it to the market just yet. Back in 1999, I bought my SI and couldn't find a cold air intake for it. I had to wait awhile. I don't think it would be too much of a problem if you modified it to work for your car. Although I know for a fact MAF's are picky about big greasy air cleaners. That oil contaminates the hot wire, changes the resistance and the signal back to the ECU is incorrect. Now if you are backing up the MAP with the MAF, it will definitly throw a MIL light. I've seen it happen, and usually it's not repairable and MAF's are not cheap. So I would suggest to try and keep the oil to a mininum.
Old 08-08-2005 | 12:48 PM
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Many cars have MAF sensors that are built into their own short section of tube. Velocity distribution across that tube is important, it'll throw off the calibration. Often there's a narrowing of the flow, because a converging section will make the velocity profile more uniform. But that also makes more resistance.

Since the 7th-gen Accord MAF is an anemometer that's just inserted into the flow stream, you have to be that much more careful about disturbing the velocity profile.

Since it's in the entrance from the filter housing to the intake tube, it's probably not a well-developed velocity profile. So it'll be hard to duplicate the same profile unless your aftermarket intake is the same size/shape as the stock filter...
Old 08-08-2005 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hondatech
From what I've been told, it's there to back up the MAP. I also think that the MAF is also a IAT sensor built into one unit. I would assume that the legal type intake companys haven't pleased the cali smog police yet and that maybe it's just too new of a car to get it to the market just yet. Back in 1999, I bought my SI and couldn't find a cold air intake for it. I had to wait awhile. I don't think it would be too much of a problem if you modified it to work for your car. Although I know for a fact MAF's are picky about big greasy air cleaners. That oil contaminates the hot wire, changes the resistance and the signal back to the ECU is incorrect. Now if you are backing up the MAP with the MAF, it will definitly throw a MIL light. I've seen it happen, and usually it's not repairable and MAF's are not cheap. So I would suggest to try and keep the oil to a mininum.
Messing up the MAF with to much oil on a filter such as a K&N or a Air Hog could be a problem. There touchy as can be.

Them darn cali smog police can ruin anything. Im so glad I got out of cali years ago. Only one family member still there and shes going to leave asap. Maybe we can sell it back to mexico.

Thanks for the input.
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Old 08-08-2005 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JimBlake
Many cars have MAF sensors that are built into their own short section of tube. Velocity distribution across that tube is important, it'll throw off the calibration. Often there's a narrowing of the flow, because a converging section will make the velocity profile more uniform. But that also makes more resistance.

Since the 7th-gen Accord MAF is an anemometer that's just inserted into the flow stream, you have to be that much more careful about disturbing the velocity profile.

Since it's in the entrance from the filter housing to the intake tube, it's probably not a well-developed velocity profile. So it'll be hard to duplicate the same profile unless your aftermarket intake is the same size/shape as the stock filter...
It would appear after removing the top part of the filter housing and snaping a pic it is indeed in a covnergance part of the air flow with in its own part of the duct leaving the filter box. I didnt messure it but it does seem to tighten up in the area of the MAF.

http://www.psyshack.com/maf.jpg

thanks
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