JIC Magic FLT-A2 Coilovers vs Tein SS
#1
JIC Magic FLT-A2 Coilovers vs Tein SS
Are they worth the money? They retail for $1,850 MSRP USD; for comparison, Tein SS are $1,000 MSRP. I've heard that JIC are pretty damn good. Personally I would get these coilovers and use them all year round because there is no issue of rust (unlike Tein SS). Rust is a MAJOR issue up here in Canadian winters. The wierd thing about them is that the whole spring seat moves instead of the springs just compressing so that you always get full travel of the spring at any setting. Fully adjustable from 0.5" to 3" and this application has 15 way adjustability.
http://www.jic-magic.com/productsjic_susp.htm
Another application is the SF-1 which only has ride height adjustability and no rebound adjustability. They retail for $1,450 MSRP USD. I think it's worth the extra money for the FLT-A2.
I can't seem to find them online or on eBay. Does anyone know where I can get them?
And I do not seem to understand this spring rate business. For JIC, F/R is 9kg/6kg for the FLT-A2 and 8kg/5kg for the SF-1. For Tein, the front is 7kgf/mm and the rear is 4kgf/mm. Which is better and which is worse?
http://www.jic-magic.com/productsjic_susp.htm
Another application is the SF-1 which only has ride height adjustability and no rebound adjustability. They retail for $1,450 MSRP USD. I think it's worth the extra money for the FLT-A2.
I can't seem to find them online or on eBay. Does anyone know where I can get them?
And I do not seem to understand this spring rate business. For JIC, F/R is 9kg/6kg for the FLT-A2 and 8kg/5kg for the SF-1. For Tein, the front is 7kgf/mm and the rear is 4kgf/mm. Which is better and which is worse?
#2
I have tein SS and i live in upper michigan (bad winters) and i haven't had any signs of rust on the coilover. I just keep the threads clean (usually blast out the dirt with water or brake cleaner, use some wd-40 to keep it slick) During winter i try to do this as much as possible. I've had them for about a year and a half and they've been fine to me. Just take care of them and they should be fine. Might even wanna try some anti-rust type of spray.
Here's how our winters get
Here's how our winters get
#3
A'PEXi WS Coilovers?
Yes our winters are just as bad in Toronto. I want a coilover that I am able to raise back up to stock for the winter and have 1 finger gap for the spring and not have to worry about rusting. Another issue is how comfortable the ride is. I know Tein is very good riding. Now what about A'PEXi World Sport? They are adjustable from 1" above stock to 4" below stock. There is no damper adjustability though. If it is a comfortable ride, I don't even need the rebound adjustability.
#4
the tein dampening is very nice. I usually just set it to softest when riding around, and stiffest when feeling aggressive or autocross. I haven't experience too much racing so i don't really need the specific settings, but it is nice to be able to change it around.
With my teins, all the way down in the front is a little more then a finger gap, the back goes down a little lower, probably be able to get a little over the tire. Going to be raising them all the way up for winter soon, don't know how much gap there is
With my teins, all the way down in the front is a little more then a finger gap, the back goes down a little lower, probably be able to get a little over the tire. Going to be raising them all the way up for winter soon, don't know how much gap there is
#5
Originally posted by Dracord
the tein dampening is very nice. I usually just set it to softest when riding around, and stiffest when feeling aggressive or autocross. I haven't experience too much racing so i don't really need the specific settings, but it is nice to be able to change it around.
With my teins, all the way down in the front is a little more then a finger gap, the back goes down a little lower, probably be able to get a little over the tire. Going to be raising them all the way up for winter soon, don't know how much gap there is
the tein dampening is very nice. I usually just set it to softest when riding around, and stiffest when feeling aggressive or autocross. I haven't experience too much racing so i don't really need the specific settings, but it is nice to be able to change it around.
With my teins, all the way down in the front is a little more then a finger gap, the back goes down a little lower, probably be able to get a little over the tire. Going to be raising them all the way up for winter soon, don't know how much gap there is
#7
I checked on the Tein website and the height is adjustable from 2" to 3.5" in the front and 1.7" to 2.7" in the rear. I am in fear of the 2" in the front, as it seems too low for winter driving (especially if there's a snow storm).
#8
btw, this is my rear after 1 year 4 months of no cleaning. I finally had to raise them up and gave them a good cleaning and the threads look as good as the day i got them
What i did was get some brake cleaner and sprayed it in the threads to get all the gunk out, then got some spray lubrication to put in there. There was some brownish gunk in there that looked like rust, but i just moved the thread over it and kept spraying the brake cleaner to clean it out. I moved the plates from almost all the way from the bottom to the top. It did get difficult near the top, but just make sure you keep on spraying some brake cleaner because the gunk builds up as you keep turning the plates.
Basically, take care of whatever you get. If you want to keep height adjustability, move the threads at least every year all around and keep them clean and lubricated.
What i did was get some brake cleaner and sprayed it in the threads to get all the gunk out, then got some spray lubrication to put in there. There was some brownish gunk in there that looked like rust, but i just moved the thread over it and kept spraying the brake cleaner to clean it out. I moved the plates from almost all the way from the bottom to the top. It did get difficult near the top, but just make sure you keep on spraying some brake cleaner because the gunk builds up as you keep turning the plates.
Basically, take care of whatever you get. If you want to keep height adjustability, move the threads at least every year all around and keep them clean and lubricated.
#10
Tein is okay (although SS...i'd rather get springs + shocks).
JIC? Avoid. The shops here in Toronto generally do not have good things to say about it. It's hard to fix a blown JIC (rarer) but with Teins, you have tons of replacements.
JIC? Avoid. The shops here in Toronto generally do not have good things to say about it. It's hard to fix a blown JIC (rarer) but with Teins, you have tons of replacements.