cmon.. the ass wasnt necessary
and i dont think i will waste my money on importing and legalizing a skyline.. ass

edit: hey SOHC turbo? how much whp u runnin? times? i ask because i MAY mini me swap onto my existing motor and turbo..
should i do it? 105k miles on the motor.. highway apparently according to the previous owner tho

 

There are fast autox cars that can run 12's in the 1/4mi but they aren't hondas.

One I know is a Lotus Elise with a K20A swap but it's not street legal.

Another one is a Westie. With a Busa engine + turbo. 1300lbs. 0-60 in about 3 seconds largely limited by traction.

Does very well on the autox as well as rip a new one to 99% of the cars out there and streel legal.

Notice they are all RWD cars.

 

I thought it was kinda funny :chuckles:

Seriously though... What youre asking is impossible. The only way you could run 12s would be with a swap and turbo. Or at least a heavily boosted sohc. Turbo cars suck for autocross. an H series is a waste--too heavy.

really the only setup I could think of would be a THOROUGHLY built and over-bored B18C with a centerfugal S/C like the procharger (probably not the vortech--sloshing water = bad), and a limited slip (of course). But then youre talking around $9K just for the powerplant. If it IS possible, which I doubt, then I can't see it being worth the $$$.

Autocross classing isn't really a concern, because anything you could do to get a civic into the 12s would put you in Street Mod. Any swap, any F/I, any internal modifications... whatever.

 

Realistically a perfectly setup autocross car will be limited in the drags and vice versa. I run toe out front and rear to get the car to turn better which kills me in the drags. For drag racing you want the frpmt tires flat on the ground for better traction whereas you want more camber up front for better cornering.

So you have to choose Autocrossing = courses longer than 40 seconds. Drag racing = 10-5 seconds. Autocrossing $20. Drag racing $40-50.

 

Exactly why I think the whole concept is nuts.

Some turbocharged cars do well at the autocrosses. Example, the RX-7 Turbo II. On stock boost levels, they are not too crazy and spool pretty quick with a decent power band. Once you up the boost, it becomes more and more difficult to control the car, in this case throttle oversteer will kill you unless you spend quite a bit of time and money in the suspension, and even more time doing the "P" word... practice.

N/A engines are much more forgiving, but you're not going to get into the 12's without a crazy-built ($$$!) engine with very peaky horsepower and torque curves. This is not good while trying to maintain precise control of your car.

You may want to participate in some autocrosses first, and build the car as you see fit. Just don't think that because a car is faster in the 1/4 it will be faster in the autocross... there is no solid connection between the two.

On a final note, car choice is everything. Civics can be built into some amazing creatures, but you have to keep in mind your performance goals. You sound like the kind of person that should use your Civic as a daily driver and buy an older car to convert into a track car. That's up to you.

 

:stupid:

 

Plus show up with a 12 second Civic and you will be in SM depending on what mods you do OR DM or EM which you are against tube frame chassis cars.

And actually car choice IS NOT EVERYTHING! Read my sig. Driver has more to do with a car than the car itself. I know guys who have a blast in their stock Civic HX and they think they are flying

 

Maybe not everything, but it sure helps. Some car choices are better then others, I would never choose a Mustang to autocross or a Miata to drag race.

 

The mustang contingent is actually one of the most competitive groups here :dunno: Second, of course, to the miatas... h: :exnbp: