Ground Controls + koni yellows here too. The ground controls are awesome, and a perfect match to the Koni's. If you have the money, I would HIGHLY reccomend koni yellows. I think the stock rates for my civic were 375f/250r or something like that. I got custom rates for autocross... although I'm thinking about changing my rates some time... The nice thing about GCs is that replacement springs are only $50/spring.

W/ my konis, I didn't even use the spring perch (cup thingy). All I used was the koni snap-ring, and the GC perch (its flat). But they'll give you the necessary hardware to work with whatever shocks you have. You just have to tell them which shocks youre using when you order. Oh yeah, and don't use stock.

 

Noob question...what are good spring rates? I'm not going to be autocrossing anytime soon but DEFINITELY want really good handling on the road, around corners, on emergency manuevers, definitely to be stiff, etc...but not setup for autocross unless it's worth driving on the street. Input please?

 

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The spring rates that come stock with the limited edition GC setup (375f/250r, i think)are good for daily drivers. A little understeer biased to keep things on the safe side... Paired with good shocks, I think that would be all you need for the street. I wouldn't reccommend getting higher rear spring rates (like civicsiracer, or yours truly) unless you have some experience autocrossing or competitive driving on a closed course.

If you want to go up from there, but leave the balance similar, up the front and rear spring rates the same, for instance 400f/275r, etc... I wouldn't reccomend going over 400lbs for a non-competitive daily driver, though.

 

I have done some autocrossing before, out in NY when I lived there. Of course not competitive or professional but you know the usual cones setup for a large friendly run. I'm not an expert on it but I can hold my own when on the twisties. Do you think a 375/300 would be a good DD and still compete every now and then in minor autoXing? CivicSiRacer input greatly appreciated...

 

Was the $300 for istallation and then you payed a seperate price for the Coilovers and the shocks or was the $300 for everything? When I got mine installed I payed $850 for the Coilovers, Shocks(don't even know what brand they were) and installation.

 

375/300 is still pretty safe... I just like to warn people as much as possible, because if youre not really familar with vehicle dynamics, or just aren't careful, its really easy to go ass-first right off the road. Thats why high rear spring rates aren't for everyone.

What I would reccomend, if youre willing to give it some time, is to go to a few more autocrosses, and beat around empty parking lots in your town, and pay close attention to the way you drive. Bring a freind or a camcorder for more input. You'll drive in either a very controlled, brake, turn, gas way, or a toss the weight around, trail-braking sort of way, or more likely, somewhere in between. Then use that input to help you decide what kind of spring rates to get. If you have a controlled style, w/ minimal durring turn adjustment w/ throttle or brakes, then a higher rear spring rate might be right for you. If you are more on edge, or if you use the brakes while turning much, you'd likely be better off with a more front-biased spring rate.

 

That clears it up PERFECTLY! Thanks man...

To another issue, heh, what is the best site to get them at for a good price with struts?

 

I got mine directly from ground control. If you want custom rates, I think you NEED to get them from ground control, or just get lucky w/ a used set. You have to order them over the phone.

I got my Konis off ebay for $515 shipped. Always check feedback when buying on ebay.

 

I see I see. How much did the coilovers cost you from Ground Control straight through them? Can you get rhe Konis from them too or you have to get them seperately? Thanks for the info man...