Originally Posted by Labrador

I'm not talking crap here, dude. What I'm saying is that although turbos WILL win races, they simply aren't as durable or reliable. If some of you guys have had success with these engine-destroyers, then I'm very happy for you. But superchargers are kind and gentle to your engine, and if someone wants a RELIABLE Honda Civic that's considerably faster than stock, turbo simply isn't an option. Plus superchargers provide that satisfying low-end torque you simply don't get in a turbo. Sorry man, but that's just the way it is.

Originally Posted by Labrador

Right now my 2000 Civic EX 5spd is stock, but I'm planning on installing a Jackson Racing supercharger kit as soon as I have enough money (which should be in about three weeks).

Originally Posted by Labrador

I'm not trying to race anyone here, I just want my car to be a little quicker.

Originally Posted by Labrador

And, please, let's not flame here. I'm just stating my honest opinion on the whole turbo/super thing.

Originally Posted by SleeperCivicEX

I might get warning points for this, but I'm going to flame you now - you're an idiot. You're spouting off about how turbos suck and they're unreliable - that's B.S. I've been running mine at 10-11psi for over 2 years now without a problem. I put over 35,000 boosted miles on the motor and drive it daily. I spank Civic Si's with JRSCs at equal boost levels. THAT is what you're talking about? Yeah, you might get me off the line (spinning b/c of your "low end torque") but I'll catch you 2 seconds later.
Right. Like I said, I'm not going to race anyone here, and I know turbos will win races; my argument is strictly on reliability and long term durability; in this case, turbos just don't stack up.


I hope you enjoy the slowness and getting beat by someone with low-end traction.
You're right about this one. A front wheel drive Honda Civic like mine is NOT going to have any traction to compete with a rear wheel drive Mustang or Camaro.


I hope that's all you're hoping for, because a "little" quicker is all you're going to get.
Well, yes, I would appreciate some improvement over my stock 127 hp D16Y8. It would be nice to not have to rev past 5k to get some power.


Didn't sound like an opinion to me, it sounded like you had done some research, but you're just spouting off at the mouth. Quit now while you still have the chance to redeem yourself.

Originally Posted by Labrador

Um, okay. But you have to admit, some people rank reliability and driveability over sheer speed. In other words a "daily driver". The words "turbo'ed daily driver" is an oxymoron, agreed?

Originally Posted by Labrador

Um, okay. But you have to admit, some people rank reliability and driveability over sheer speed. In other words a "daily driver". The words "turbo'ed daily driver" is an oxymoron, agreed?

Originally Posted by SleeperCivicEX

I might get warning points for this, but I'm going to flame you now - you're an idiot. You're spouting off about how turbos suck and they're unreliable - that's B.S. I've been running mine at 10-11psi for over 2 years now without a problem. I put over 35,000 boosted miles on the motor and drive it daily. I spank Civic Si's with JRSCs at equal boost levels. THAT is what you're talking about? Yeah, you might get me off the line (spinning b/c of your "low end torque") but I'll catch you 2 seconds later.



I hope you enjoy the slowness and getting beat by someone with low-end traction.



I hope that's all you're hoping for, because a "little" quicker is all you're going to get.



Didn't sound like an opinion to me, it sounded like you had done some research, but you're just spouting off at the mouth. Quit now while you still have the chance to redeem yourself.

Originally Posted by Labrador

Um, okay. But you have to admit, some people rank reliability and driveability over sheer speed. In other words a "daily driver". The words "turbo'ed daily driver" is an oxymoron, agreed?

Originally Posted by westcoaststyle

I have a 12.6 sec turbo daily driver. :dunno:

I'm seriously (not flaming) wondering where you got your understanding of turbos/supers? Did you hear this from some friend or something? Seriously.

Originally Posted by Labrador

Um, okay. But you have to admit, some people rank reliability and driveability over sheer speed. In other words a "daily driver". The words "turbo'ed daily driver" is an oxymoron, agreed?

Originally Posted by Labrador

Um, okay. But you have to admit, some people rank reliability and driveability over sheer speed. In other words a "daily driver". The words "turbo'ed daily driver" is an oxymoron, agreed?