Were not talking about Strut Bars.

 

Theres a picture of it. Once it's all together it looks different that when in pieces. It is basically a long bar that kinds of angles up slightly at the end. Then you take and screw these "ball joints" which looke like "=O" and they go into the end then you put a bolt through the "O" and once you tighten that bolt the whole thing tightens up and even though its a ball joint you can't move it at all once it's on, it's basically for fitment like the other guy said, it fits 88-95 Civics so I'm sure it adjusts a little to fit the differences of each car.

 

Thanks for the useful info and a great pic! I have a Neuspeed front upper, and am definitely getting a rear lower! Have a few question:

1. Being a near total mechanical handicap, is it easy to install? Is it a DIY project or have to have a pro do it? Do I need to jack up the car?

2. Does it come with installation instruction?

3. Any tip or precaution for installation?

4. What type of tool do we need?

5. Approx time for installtion?

6. Since I have a HB, is it necessary to get a Rear Upper? I thought only sedans and coupes needs it.

Thanks again!

 

technically i think we are.

but they will help to induce oversteer, and they aren't as effective as sway bars. and theres no arguing, thats the truth.

all that added tension and strength you added there...think how much better it would have been with sway bars. ah, youll not know yet trust me, it woulda been a lot better!

 

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Nice pic by FourthGenHatch.

I'm not FourthGenHatch but I'll help answer your questions too. Both of our opinions might be helpful to you.
1. It is easy to install. You can do it yourself. You need to jack the rear of the car up high enough to put jackstands under the car. Make sure to use wheel chocks up front. You don't need to remove the wheels. You basically remove the LCA pivot bolts, put the bar in place, then reinstall the LCA pivot bolts.

2. I don't know about FourthGenHatch's particular application but most don't come with installation instructions.

3. You might find it helpful to install at least one end piece first and then estimate the proper length before tightening everything down.

4. Ratchet; 10, 12, or 14mm socket (I forgot); torque wrench; jack with enough lift to get the car on jackstands; jackstands.

5. 30min. Since you're admitting to not being a super mechanic (at least you're honest), give yourself at least a couple hours just to be on the safe side. I honestly think you'll be done in no time as long as nothing goes wrong.

6. It's not necessary to get a rear upper but I've actually heard the opposite of what you stated. Hatchbacks essentially have a big hole in that part of the frame and are more prone to flex than sedans and coupes. If anything, more bracing in the rear of a hatchback will help a hatch more than a coupe or sedan with a trunk.

Good luck and I hope this helps.

 

yeah, you make an interesting point. the way a hatch is there is essentially far less to tie the back end together like the trunk performs in a coupe/sedan.

make sure that you counter balance strut bars. dont put two bars in the back and nothing in front, or vica versa. never be out of balance more than one or your steering will get unbearable, and could be dangerous.

 

Thanks agent87 for your tips. Appreciate yours and others help!:blue:

 

1. It's not difficult, but it's a lot of work.

2. Yes it has instructions, but they are basic, I can give you details if you would like.

3. Not really.

4. Socket wrech, 14mm and 17mm, Jack and 2 Jackstands

5. Took me 2 hours, but with what I know now I could do it in under an hour.

6. I would think Hatchback would need Rear Upper even more since it's a big hallow space.

 

Sort of, but a Tie Bar doesn't connect to the Struts in any way.