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Old 11-12-2002 | 01:36 PM
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Default Undecided between the 00-01 ITr cams and the Skunk2 Stage 1 cams

I need some of your guy's input on this. Which cams would you go for?

Skunk2 Stage 1 cams or the 00-01 ITR cams?

From my research, both have an advantage.

The skunk2 cams will give me more High end horsepower, while the ITR cams will give me more low-mid end torque/hp. I don't know which one I should go for? I have been trying to make this decision for the past month, and I still can't decide.

Skunks will yield ~10 hp more at ~8000rpms
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ITR's will yield ~5 tq more at ~4000-5000 rpms

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Old 11-12-2002 | 01:51 PM
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what do you plan to do with the car? drag, autox, track, street?

answer that first.
Old 11-12-2002 | 01:52 PM
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If you want midrange power: Jun2 intake cam, ITR exhaust cam.
Old 11-12-2002 | 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Snoopy
what do you plan to do with the car? drag, autox, track, street?

answer that first.
This car is only a daily driven street car. I don't push the car to the limit that much, and my mods so far are:

AEM CAI, Greddy 4-2-1 Headers, and Apexi WS exhaust

Also, how much do the Jun 2 cams run?


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Old 11-12-2002 | 02:27 PM
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$300-400 each.

Here's the Jun2/ITR (red) vs. CTR/ITR (blue)

Old 11-12-2002 | 02:35 PM
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Looks like the Jun2's ownerage the CTR/ITR's in the middle there.
Old 11-12-2002 | 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by inspyral
Looks like the Jun2's ownerage the CTR/ITR's in the middle there.
A good example of why peak numbers don't mean crap.
Old 11-12-2002 | 02:46 PM
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I would say if you are not completely tied down to your orginal choices that JUN2/ITR seems like a good combo. See how they match up price wise.

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Old 11-12-2002 | 08:07 PM
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The key question with the Jun's is whether or not it is required to upgrade your valvetrain, i.e. sprinds and retainers.

For the ITR and Skunk2 Stage 1's, if you're not going to raise your stock rev limit, then the stock valvetrain will be fine. The ITR cams max out at the stock rev limit anyway, so there's really no point. BUT, the Stage 1 cams are still capable of making power to 9000 rpm's, but then that would require new valve springs and retainers (Skunk2's of course).

As for your research, where did you get your information. From my sources (HERE), the Skunk2 Stage 1's will have more power throughout the powerband compared to the ITR's.

Lastly, no matter what set up you decide to go with, make sure you get the corresponding cam gears and definitely spend the time and money to get them dyno-tunded.:thumbup:


I too debated for a while over the CTR cams and Stage's 1's. In the end, I went with the Stage 1's. I'm just waiting for my valve adjustment tool to get here before I install my Skunk2 cams and cam gears...
Old 11-12-2002 | 08:14 PM
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the pwer band to 9k is very debatable...its all on how you tune the car and for what power band you tune the car for.. you can go check out importbuilders dyno graphs.. one of there 240+ hp cars running toda c's peaked at about 8400 i believe... so just htink of how your gona tune your car.. ive also had experiance with toda c's in a built b18c5.. and experianmce with ctr cams in a b20 vtec with 12:1 comp.. we just dynoed that setup the other day..spec are as follow b20 block..eagle rods. je pistons 92 b16 head with ctr cams.. at 12.0 comp.. running stock b16 manifold and tbody.. the cams peaked at about 7500 and the motor put down 186 with 150...now once we get toda c's into the motor with a set of modified toyota ae111 individual tbody's onto it.. were hoping peak power around 9k



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