asiandoood

I concur



I dont think it was a personal attack. Most cases on hydrolocked engines with SRI's are events of submerged filters with WOT and no bypass valves. It is very hard to hydrolock the engine unless you totally submerge the filter with the throttle open.

But this could/couldn't happen case by case. :dunno:

ColeM

My frined had an intake that wasn't aem, just a good filter worked great untill the car hit a tree.

Buyimports2

I know, all those idiots should have just turned on their propellors and flown over those puddles, because it was obviously the drivers fault and not the fact that CAI filter is like 2 inches from the ground.

mberndt

First this is directed to ddd4114 Do you think that I purposely drove my CAI equipped, lowered car into large puddles? If so, are you retarded . After all this is what your first post said.

As for Asiandood, you concur with what? The fact that hydrolocking is caused by a submerged filter? So do I... No argument there...

You say "Most cases on hydrolocked engines with SRI's are events of submerged filters with WOT and no bypass valves."

I thought we were talking about CAI's... How would an SRI be submerged in water without the entire car and engine being submerged also?

You also say "It is very hard to hydrolock the engine unless you totally submerge the filter with the throttle open"

This is a wrong assumption. I got a bent connecting rod that I will show you , that came from exactly what you say is very hard to do....
Here is what happened:
I turned left onto a street, in the dark, where there was standing water, approximately 2 feet high, as I turned and my car became submerged, I immediately turned off the motor, but it was too late. The engine was idling when it was hydrolocked, and the motor was most certianly not at WOT, yet I still hydrolocked... So yes it can be easily done without the motor being at WOT... As long as the filter is completely submerged, the engine creates negative pressure, and then it works just like a regular pump.

Bottom line is CAI's ARE dangerous, ESPECIALLY for those who regularly buy them. For me I know the dangerous side-effects, but for those who buy them cause they "add 5 hp" or "look cool" don't know any better, and sure as hell don't understand the mechanics involved in heat engines, and the fact that they can ruin their motor in a couple of seconds.

For me, I did all my work myself, others may not be so lucky, a simple cocky demeanor and the "it's not gonna happen to me" attitude can cost someone alot of money if they hydrolock their motor...

But what do you guys care about good advice, you are just looking to flame the next guy on these boards...

P.S. I'm not trying to be a dick, Asaindood, you are right for the most part, but it can happen with the engine at idle and closed throttle...

asiandoood

Hence why I said case by case. Majority of the folks hydrolock their motors by means of what was mentioned earlier.

I don't doubt how you did yours. I'm just implying that in most cases, there was no bypass valve, a factor of a deep puddle, and open throttle was the culprit of the mishap.

I've seen bent valves caused by potholes. Interesting eh?

Evil_Omen

I personally went with a shortram intake with a cold ar box on it. works fine for me and i def dont have to worry about sucking up tons of water

ddd4114

No, that was not intended to be an attack or anything of the sort. I don't in any way believe that you purposely hydrolocked your engine - that would be retarded. I apologize for coming off like a dick, but I'm just tired of people thinking that they had absolutely nothing to do with hydrolocking their CAI-equipped car.

In your case - you didn't do anything retarded, like drive full throttle through a river. However, when you lower your car, you lower the filter, and it becomes that much easier to hydrolock your engine. Also, how fast were you going around that turn? What was the road/terrain like? If you know the road might be flooded (2' is pretty deep - that would certainly hydrolock your engine at idle), you might want to exercise caution, if not completely avoid it.

My filter sits a good foot off the ground (I can't measure it exactly; the car is 4 hours away from me right now), and the water level would have to exceed that height for the engine to start sucking up a dangerous amount of water. However, during and after it rains, I make sure I drive extra cautiously and only take major roads. If I see a puddle that looks deep, I make sure I slow down and avoid it. If I don't think I can avoid it, I take a detour. If I can't do either, I'd pull over and shut off my engine (haven't had this situation yet). I'd rather pay $50 for a tow than render my car useless.

me, too. I think he meant CAI, but typed SRI by mistake.

Don't think that I didn't consider the risk that I might hydrolock my engine when I installed my CAI. I know perfectly well the "mechanics involved in a heat engine", and I realize I could destroy mine if I'm not careful. Is there a chance of me hydrolocking my engine? Absolutely. Will I take every precaution to make sure that doesn't happen? Again - absolutely. I guess I'm guilty of having the "it's not gonna happen to me attitude", but I weighed the consequences, and when I bend a rod, you can say "I told you so".



Oh - and for the bypass filter: I'm not saying it doesn't do it's job. I don't want one because it virtually negates any power gains of a CAI over a SRI. Also, if you're that afraid, then buy a SRI in the first place.

$210 for a CAI + $50 for a bypass valve vs. $80 for a SRI (assuming new AEM products)

19.3secS2K

:stupid: this man is a genius

Buyimports2

Doesn't gain any power though, which is usually the point of getting a CAI or SRI. The new filter may flow better, but the stock airbox setup is mainly what restricts the flow.

19.3secS2K

integra air box's seem fine to me :dunno:

my car doesn't benifit from filter-on-a-stick h: