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Old 08-03-2005 | 08:54 AM
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I'm all for the oil cooler.

The oil cooler is not going to bring the oil down to "cold start temps". It's just gonna give it a few more seconds before it makes another cycle throught he already hot motor. For the amount of heat that the turbo puts off & the hell that the oil is put through when it goes through the turbo, eventually once it's all cycled through once, it's just going ot continue to get hotter & hotter.. the oil cooler will more or less help it maintaine a slightly cooler temp.

I just don't see the oil cooling to a dangerously cold temp when the engine already has the oil hot.. Unless your a jack ass & purge nitrous to your oil cooler! lol
Old 08-03-2005 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
The other advantage to using a CM canister filter - you don't have to buy the remote filter adapter, just -10 in, -10 out.


I'm currently using a CM canister fuel filter and will hopefully be installing a CM canister oil filter soon... I don't think I'm going to run a cooler though... I'm just sick and tired of the ridiculous stock placement of the oil filter.
Uh... -10 actually scares me. I don't disagree that it's convenient, but I'd get some fittings to step that down to a smaller size if at all possible.

When I bought my oil cooler, it came with huge -12 AN fittings. My oil filter housing had metric fittings, and all I could easily find was a metric to -12 AN. The Setrab rep urged me not to use -12AN lines for my oil cooler setup because the larger lines cause a pressure drop in your oil system. All that added volume makes it difficult for your oil pump to provide enough flow. Setrab recommended -8AN at the largest for any wet sump system. He said the larger stuff is okay for dry sump V8's, but not for an import.

Since he's a guy that actually finished his engineering degree, I took his word for it. I found those fittings about 3 weeks later, and a month and a half down the road after getting the wrong ones from them and sending them back, I finally got them. They happened to be the last part I had to order so I could put oil in my car and start it. I had finished everything else and was SO impatient to get my car running. Damnit... ah memories....
Old 08-03-2005 | 09:43 AM
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My fuel filter came with -12. :ugh:

I've heard some people with good results from -10. Whether -10 or -8 would be better I really can't say... not real up on that stuff, frankly.

-8 would certainly be cheaper for the lines though.
Old 08-03-2005 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by qtiger
My fuel filter came with -12. :ugh:
:eek3: That's it!!!! your fuel pump is DOOMED! j/k

Originally Posted by qtiger
I've heard some people with good results from -10. Whether -10 or -8 would be better I really can't say... not real up on that stuff, frankly.
Agreed. I don't have a degree in fluid dynamics, so I didn't argue with the dude... just took his advice.

Originally Posted by qtiger
-8 would certainly be cheaper for the lines though.
The 4 AN fittings I bought to make my -8 AN lines were $137. I needed a 180°, 135°, 90° and a 45° jank. The 180° fitting was $56. Ouch!!! Can't imagine what the -10 AN stuff costs.

Whatever size lines, and for whatever import, the concept is still the same. Here's my shizzle.

There's a factory JDM Mitsubishi part that let me remove my sandwich cooler style oil filter housing and install this one that supplies metric send/return ports. There are also oil filter relocation kits that do the same thing as qtiger mentioned.


Get yourself an oil cooler. If you get a Setrab and you don't like the fitting sizes, you can order the right ones from Setrab, USA. They're hard to get in contact with, but once you do, they're very helpful. Good luck.

Here it is installed on my bucket.

Old 08-03-2005 | 10:31 AM
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This is the CM cartridge filter. Their fuel and oil filters come in the same bodies, but obviously the filter media is different.






That's the 8" tall unit... which frankly I don't think is necessary for 99.99999% of the applications people are using here, but I plan on asking their advice when I order anyways. h:


By far the best part of the CM filter is because of its high flow rate, there's no bypass valve whatsoever.
Old 08-03-2005 | 06:47 PM
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I am not sure where you got the information that the CM filters are 8" tall. The site I visit indicates a 6" and a 4". Both have more than enough filteration capacity to handle a 4 banger with a cooler, turbo and anything else you want to send oil too.

I called and spoke to a rep there explained my application and the 4" was way more than needed. My app is a B18C1 turbo. When I looked at the cost of $65.00 at a 8 micro filtration I see value. Same goes with the fuel set up. you could even buy a 1 micron filter element..... thats insane....... 39 millionths of an inch. no particals passing here. 8 microns or .0003 inches is very small for a fuel or oil filter. We also talked about break in and he said do not use these filters on a brand new engine. use a stock filter and upon break in switch over. Without a by pass it could turn into an issue.
Old 08-03-2005 | 06:59 PM
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Yeah, 8" was just a misstatement on my part.


I'm using the 1 micron fuel filter. That's their standard for EFI setups. And with the fuel needs of any Honda motor... practically no one needs the extra flow of the 8 micron.




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