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I'm sorry that is cheap. I added 2 grounds to my engine and replaced all the stock ones with 4 guage and it works fine. It cost ME a whopping $20. That was like 10 guage wire. If you were to just replace the stock grounds you will be happy.
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Originally Posted by Illegal B16
what do you mean?
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I was under the impression that grounding your fuel rail extra would help with electronic static and help with a smoother acceleration. A better ground over the stock ones at least cant hurt. I will post a pic of my engine bay soon.
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Originally Posted by Illegal B16
I was under the impression that grounding your fuel rail extra would help with electronic static and help with a smoother acceleration. A better ground over the stock ones at least cant hurt. I will post a pic of my engine bay soon.
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Originally Posted by b16aEGcivic
as posted above, if you have shitty grounds than replace the ground with a new peice of wire and a better ground. These kit things are rediculous, and the HP gains they claim are less then realistic.
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I apologize for not posting a more intelligent answer. Unless your car is known to have grounding issues, grounding kits are a load of crap, replacing your factory grounds will give you the same or even better results.
I read a review that a mag did a while back when grounding kits first started to come out... they dyno’d a car before and after, they noted a 2hp decrease with the grounding kit. After moving the wires around they got a 1hp increase but it took 6 different attempts to get it to not decrease power.
Based on the size of the box I'd guess it's around 1/2F, hardly enough to make much of a noticeable difference. Going with a 1F or even 2F then you may be able to notice a difference. But again it's not worth it unless you run a battery relocation or a super small battery.
the reason I pointed this out is because a ground has to be secure, metal to metal contact. With the rubber grommet in there it can wiggle/turn and cause intermittent contact which will induce noise. It probably will not cause any problems when everything is new, but give it 6 months.
Illegal B16 - grounding the fuel rail can help, but it may not.
I've been doing some checking since I've been working on several different cars lately, and I measured as much as 15ohms between the ground terminal and the rail on a friend's stock EX, but I also measured .1ohms on mine and a beat-up DX.
It really does come down to the quality of the factory grounds, I'm pretty sure that if I would have slightly turned the nuts that mount the rail on the EX, it would have dropped the resistance... but it can't hurt to add a wire just in case.
I read a review that a mag did a while back when grounding kits first started to come out... they dyno’d a car before and after, they noted a 2hp decrease with the grounding kit. After moving the wires around they got a 1hp increase but it took 6 different attempts to get it to not decrease power.
Based on the size of the box I'd guess it's around 1/2F, hardly enough to make much of a noticeable difference. Going with a 1F or even 2F then you may be able to notice a difference. But again it's not worth it unless you run a battery relocation or a super small battery.
Originally Posted by Kai
The wire will still ground through the bolt.
Illegal B16 - grounding the fuel rail can help, but it may not.
I've been doing some checking since I've been working on several different cars lately, and I measured as much as 15ohms between the ground terminal and the rail on a friend's stock EX, but I also measured .1ohms on mine and a beat-up DX.
It really does come down to the quality of the factory grounds, I'm pretty sure that if I would have slightly turned the nuts that mount the rail on the EX, it would have dropped the resistance... but it can't hurt to add a wire just in case.
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Originally Posted by VtecRacer
i'm not particularly looking at HP gains, how about improving fuel economy, smoother ride, idle?