Value of civic with upgrades?
02-20-2005 | 05:51 AM
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From: VIRGINIA
Originally Posted by Kai
David: Jafro knows more about DSM's then you could ever wish to. :chuckles:
Brake: To stop working by means of mechanical failure, or to stop your car (and the parts associated with such action)
Break: To take time off.
Please stop saying "break" when you mean "brake."
Jafro: I thought all later DSM's had the 7 bolt 4G63's. Did they go back to the 6 bolts after 94?
Brake: To stop working by means of mechanical failure, or to stop your car (and the parts associated with such action)
Break: To take time off.
Please stop saying "break" when you mean "brake."
Jafro: I thought all later DSM's had the 7 bolt 4G63's. Did they go back to the 6 bolts after 94?
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02-20-2005 | 11:12 AM
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I'm made of meat!
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From: Richmond, VA
Originally Posted by Kai
Jafro: I thought all later DSM's had the 7 bolt 4G63's. Did they go back to the 6 bolts after 94?
Production dates 92.6-99 were all 7 bolts.
The 7-bolt design began in 92.5. All the crank bearings and journals are 66% smaller than the 6-bolts were. It changed again in 94.8 for the second generation Talon/Eclipses. Instead of using main bearing caps, they began using main bearing girdles to secure the crankshaft. While this design can be stronger in theory (and proven in NASCAR vehicles), Mitsubishi had other casting problems, bearing, and oil clearance problems with the new design that contributed to the famed "crankwalk" failures. They didn't allow the cast iron blocks to cool long enough in the forging process because demand on these cars went nuts after the first few hit the streets. This bad cast from rushing production was what really increased their failure rates more than anything. Less than 10% of the turbo 4g63 cars made suffered from it after '95, but Mitsubishi will never live it down.
The 7-bolt in my GSX doesn't have this problem. It's now 122k miles old, freshly re-built (like a brick shithouse), and all clearances are still perfectly in spec. It's an early '95 production (Oct.94). What I $pent in time and money for the amount of power I'm running would have been unnecessary with a 6-bolt block. A STOCK 6-bolt shortblock and rotating assembly has been provent to reliably make 450whp. Wow. I built my 7-bolt to hold about 650, but I want to drive it around and enjoy it at a mousey 390hp for a while before I blow up my investment and hard work.
The laser could very well turn into a 6-bolt donor. If I can find a '90 Mirage/Colt hatchback or Eagle Summit hatch somewhere for under $100, I'll swap it, I swear. I don't want to pay insurance on a turbo sports car, I wouldn't mind the $12/mo I'd be paying on the colt. That would become my street-class drag project, my GSX will turn into a show-n-go cruiser, and I'll keep the civic around just like it is. Too many engine parts on the GSX are polished for me to treat it like a daily-driver. It takes way too much work to keep it shiny.
02-20-2005 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh123
I would give you bout 2 thou for it depending on shape!
Edit: body is straight, interior is clean, and everything works. It only needs a driver's side door handle... which I already have. Tires are 50% gone, but it just passed VA state inspection. It's bone stock. Black w/grey cloth interior and no sunroof.
