Check Engine Light CEL error 41 help
05-20-2004 | 07:02 PM
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From: Eastern MA
Originally Posted by swaggs21
I have this same thing with mine, but I have not been able to figure it out.... Can anyone do me a favor and take a picture or tell me the wiring placement for these wires from the O2 Sensor to the the splices? We went by a OBDI 95 Civic, and I think that they are in different places than the OBDII 99 that I have. We have tried everything, and now, I just don't think that the wires are in the right place....
05-20-2004 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike94CivicEX
I'll do it tommorow and post pictures of it and a quick DIY for you.
Thanks, I really need to know about the wiring, we have done everything else that the honda manual suggests, all of their troubleshooting, so I am thinking we put the wires in wrong when we spliced it.....
Honda told me that the 02 was fine (the aftermarket bosch one), but these are the same people that said I had no O2 sensor in there becuase they pulled up the wrong engine diagram.... They pulled up the one for the SI, where the O2 is at the top of the header and mine is back by the cat... :moron:
05-20-2004 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by swaggs21
Thanks, I really need to know about the wiring, we have done everything else that the honda manual suggests, all of their troubleshooting, so I am thinking we put the wires in wrong when we spliced it.....
Honda told me that the 02 was fine (the aftermarket bosch one), but these are the same people that said I had no O2 sensor in there becuase they pulled up the wrong engine diagram.... They pulled up the one for the SI, where the O2 is at the top of the header and mine is back by the cat... :moron:
Honda told me that the 02 was fine (the aftermarket bosch one), but these are the same people that said I had no O2 sensor in there becuase they pulled up the wrong engine diagram.... They pulled up the one for the SI, where the O2 is at the top of the header and mine is back by the cat... :moron:
05-20-2004 | 07:19 PM
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From: Lumberport, WV
Originally Posted by Mike94CivicEX
Actually, you're wiring is OBDII mine is OBDI, so it'll be different, but I'll be using the same o2 sensor as you, so it may help a little. And I'm changing out my primary o2 sensor (header) not the cat, and I think that's the one you need to fix, right?
Yes the primary, but I think that the OBDI wiring in the 02 is different than the OBDII wiring. Or Bosch sold me a shitty O2..... That is what it cam down to pretty much...
05-24-2004 | 07:58 PM
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Of course it's fixed!
Ethernet cables carry electrostatic and tiny magnetic pulses. Any disruption in those cause packet loss. If you managed to fix an ethernet cable like this, I wouldn't be very worried about your ability to splice in a new o2 sensor; however, I'm surprised you didn't solder the connections. Electrical tape doesn't stick when it's hot, and it turns gooey. It's not good around manifolds. I solder and shrink-tube everything because of heat, vibration, chaffing, corrosion and the like which are pretty extreme for most electronics, but the norm for auto environments. But if it's fixed, then you obviously got it right :thumbup: That's one dang fancy looking connector you've got there.
The largest danger in automotive sensor applications is with wire lengths and gauge because that makes the largest impact on resistance if things are all connected properly. A properly soldered pair of wires aren't butt connected, They're twisted linearly and soldered. This actually increases the electrical contact area between the two wires, and there won't be a measureable loss in the circuit. Just don't add a few feet of wire or MonsterCable splices to the circuit and you'll be fine for something like this.
Save your money and buy the universal one.
Ethernet cables carry electrostatic and tiny magnetic pulses. Any disruption in those cause packet loss. If you managed to fix an ethernet cable like this, I wouldn't be very worried about your ability to splice in a new o2 sensor; however, I'm surprised you didn't solder the connections. Electrical tape doesn't stick when it's hot, and it turns gooey. It's not good around manifolds. I solder and shrink-tube everything because of heat, vibration, chaffing, corrosion and the like which are pretty extreme for most electronics, but the norm for auto environments. But if it's fixed, then you obviously got it right :thumbup: That's one dang fancy looking connector you've got there.
The largest danger in automotive sensor applications is with wire lengths and gauge because that makes the largest impact on resistance if things are all connected properly. A properly soldered pair of wires aren't butt connected, They're twisted linearly and soldered. This actually increases the electrical contact area between the two wires, and there won't be a measureable loss in the circuit. Just don't add a few feet of wire or MonsterCable splices to the circuit and you'll be fine for something like this.
Save your money and buy the universal one.
05-25-2004 | 05:24 PM
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Are you serious? That was just a step over just twisting the wires together and tapeing them. I give you credit for trying to DIY and save money but really that O2 sensor from bosch is a piece of shit. I bet money if I hooked up a scope to that O2 sensor you installed and watched the waveform it wouldn't be in range. Hey it's your car though, if your ok with it great. Oh yeah before you get to happy that O2 sensor code is a two trip code, it doesn't just come back on after you clear the code. I would read up a little on engine performance before it bites you in the ass.